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You forgot about beer.

If this product is indeed in the early stages of R&D, then it should price adjusted accordingly. The standard set at the $800 mark by other companies is high. Therefore, when you charge at the standard, and you don't meet it, you fail. Check any product by Bauer, CCM or Easton that has a price at $800+. Chances are you're not going to see any blemishes. Why? Because any blemishes on a high-end skate, no matter how small, reflects poorly on the company. The company attached their logo to their product and is stating, "This is our final product to you, the consumer." This is why if any blemishes are noted, you'll often see them at discount, as such: http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index.php/topic/63192-20k-skates-cosmetic-defects/ For those that don't want to click: Again, there's an industry standard. If Scott charges at the price, why shouldn't a consumer expect the standard already set? If anything there should be no excuse for sub-standard work being placed into a consumer hands. No matter how minor and insignificant. It reflects poorly on his company and says: "We sell you a new item with cosmetic defects at $850 and expect you to fix our mistakes." That doesn't happen folks. If it did, the company wouldn't be around for very long. Another way to think about it is: Junkyard wants to compete against Reebok by creating jerseys for consumers. If Junkyard does not meet and/or exceed the standard set by Reebok, Junkyard won't be able to compete at the same price structure. Simple as that. In other words, I WANT VH FOOTWEAR TO SUCCEED AND MAKE AWESOME PRODUCTS. However, they should work on their quality control. Because most consumers won't accept a sub-standard product at a premium price.

Or, you could e-mail Scott and ask him if this will become an issue/how he will fix it rather than making ridiculous analogies about it on a forum full of people who can't actually do anything about it. Ask Scott what kind of solvent should be used to clean up the glue. I guarantee he'll have a satisfactory answer for you. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say for the beer leaguers on this board, the skates will NOT come unglued, will NOT fall apart, and will NOT spontaneously combust as some of you fear.

Had a successful interview today. The woman on the phone said I would "very likely" be chosen for the next step, which not many people were chosen for. Very excited about this. It's a very prominent company.

Can we all get back on point and talk about the product and not bash everyone please. The last two pages has just turned into nonsense. Nothing educational. Most of the people on here are adults so why don't we act like it. If you unhappy with a product, bring it up with the manufacturer. Try to find a solution then share your thoughts. How many were happy right away with the LS edge holder? There seems the need to bash anyone trying something new rather than embracing change. Don't bash just for the sake of bashing. Have constructive criticism so we can all learn from your experience. Thanks

I think Marcelo makes valid points regarding the attitude of a business towards its products. Every product that goes out the door tells the customer something. A business has to decide what it wants that product to say to the customer. Obviously, each customer decides how important the appearance of the product is to him, and what that appearance implies, and leads him to infer from it. Regardless of how some customers may look at it, it's not unreasonable to think that a business owner should take pride in the apparent details of his product, and to believe that these show something about the company's attitude toward manufacturing, and the care it takes with the details that are not apparent.

Also, note that it's CDN $. Price with shipping (Skate + Holder, no Runner) came out at $880 CDN which turned into $820 US. Just FYI.

From the God's fingertips to your eyes: Hi Matt, ya white is difficult to work with and keep clean.Don't use a solvent - it will damage the material. If you have masking tape use that to gently peal the glue away. If you continue to press it down and then pull up, you will notice that a little bit comes off at a time.thanksScott When I get time later tonight, I'll try it out.

I'm really sick of the entitlement of the people on this board. I'm out of this thread.

Just placed an order. Excited! Will post pics whenever I receive them. I'm pretty sure the skates will improve my ability to dangle on the ice as well as pick up chicks off the ice. They may allow me to drink more beer following games as well.

I checked out the new rpd line at my lhs and one thing I noticed is the skate seems stiffer than previous offering but still felt "plush"." Compared to the rbk skate I had they seemed to have more cushioning in key areas such as the ankle.

Better to have open options. And if you're looking at med school in your future and you're young now, it may be a good opportunity to save money while you're working (live at home or find a cheap situation that you can live with now but won't want to deal with when you're a few years older) so that you incur less debt in med school.

And someone gets it.

This debate is becoming one-sided, heh! Since I started it, I'll chime in a bit here. My primary concern is not much so much about the aesthetics, but about the structural integrity and durability of the boot. If the boot was a rush job and the glue smears and streaks are the result of that rush, then I may be receiving an inferior product that wouldn't last as long as if someone were to slow down and take the time necessary to ensure a clean work surface and a clean product. A clean product shows care and attention to detail, whereas excess glue and stains show lack of time investment and an emphasis on getting the product done and out of the door with an "O.K" result. For example, let's relate this to welding two pieces of metal together... Am I getting this? Or, am I getting this?

Yeah I agree, I get what he is saying about any company that builds an expensive product taking pride in the appearance of their work but seriously you are comparing a glossy perfect Italian sports car that you will never bring out in the rain, will stay in a heated garage and only be driven to car shows on 70+ degree sunny days to a piece of sports equipment that is going to be smacked with sticks/pucks/metal blades etc every time that you use it? All I know is every retail pair of "pristine perfect skates" (which btw sometimes still had glue smears and messed up stitching from the factory) looked like it had way more defects than "a few excess glue smears" after literally the first game I played on them. Skates are only going to look pretty before they are played in 1 time, after that its all about performance and durability, I could care less about glue smears if they perform as advertised.

I see where the most are coming from...probably why the same are swimming in Bauer. From my perspective, I guess I do like my tiny bubbles and imperfections.

If you bought a hand made Italian sports car would you be fine with smears in the paint or excess glue on the windshield? When you pay a premium for a hand made product then you expect them to take the care that there are not imperfections, cosmetic or otherwise.

Wait, imperfections are signs of the care that goes in? Most would argue the opposite.