Sniper9

Reminds me of when I had edge holders and step steel. And how the steel would never fit properly causing up and down movement in the holders near the front. Felt like I was toe picking all the time lol. Still kind of interested though.

I don't see why it wouldn't be beneficial for the retails. The reason for the shrink wrap method is to negate all possible negative space as the boot cools and prevent it from taking its original shape and or misshapen as you move while the boot is still warm. It also allows you not to tighten the laces very much during the baking process, especially the top few eyelets. Shrink wrapping the retail skates will be totally beneficial. I'm quite opposite than most ppl. I could get my feet in my Trues even before baking. I would say they even felt loose and too big. But after baking , and especially after shrink wrapping they are locked in.

Did they offer to let u try them baked? Kind of pointless if not baked. Even the customs fit bad when you try to wear them unbaked.

My hollow was always 1/2 or 9/16 depending on whether it was summer ice or winter ice. When I got my trues I started with the 16 in the winter and then tried 5/8. I couldn't skate for the life of me with 5/8. Right now I'm back to pretty much 1/2 year round. So although some do switch to a more hollow shallow with trues, it's not an exact rule. For me, I stayed the same after experimenting. Mind you, my profile was quad zero for both my trues and my previous skates so the radius was constant. I'd suggest you have your steel profiled to what you had it before with the same hollow and then go from there.

Never had durability issues so far. The second generation a series had blade chipping issues. My ax9 I've only used a few stick and pucks so can't really comment. The most recent a series ht seems solid. Can't really beat it's price point, especially if you are in Canada. www.hockeysupremacy.com has had them on clearance for 129 for a while now.

The older a series did feel a bit more whippy. But the new ax9 feels more on par with other lines. Can't really compare with Bauer since they are the odd child with a 77 flex rating and not 75... Never tried the xc series sticks. I had one at one point but sold it before I used it. Didn't feel good in my hands.

Hope they source tydan for their custom pros. Custom pros shouldn't have their stock steel imo

Fair enough lol. And most ppl buying retails prob could care less about steel. Heck even some pros still like the ls3 stainless.

If you're used to having your toes brush up against the toe box you'll notice for sure if it's 1mm too big or too small. If your toes never touch the toe box, then it'll obviously be harder to notice a 1mm difference if bigger. For me I'd totally notice it because my toes brush. 1mm smaller and it would feel pressed. And 1mm larger there won't be any contact.

Am I the only one that's kind of disappointed that the retails don't come with step steel. I guess for the cost, it makes sense. Even CCM doesn't offer step at the retail level (aside from their current promo). Was it ever mentioned what type of steel they are using?

Interesting. 5-6 mins seems short esp for trues. Is this for customs too or the retails. You sure it wasn't for the tf7 only which isnt carbon

Yup 180-200 5 mins a side for a total of ten in a convection is what I did. One skate at a time

How much do custom eagles... Or even warriors go for

Also use these washers ... 1/2" size. I used these years ago bc I saw the had a rubber gasket. Now it looks like the Blackhawks trainer has em on all the players visors. https://www.amazon.com/Neoprene-Bonded-Sealing-Washers-Stainless/dp/B07WX7HNGD?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace&th=1&psc=1

Well. It's not yesterday anymore 😊

From an esthetics side of things they are totally 🤢. At least with the gloves you can get different colours and those are fine. I can't stand the red and neon yellow scheme. Also... 239 cdn price point for their 2x pro gloves... Jeez.

Ur trues. I thought u said you didn't bake the pro stock ones you have.

Go and bake them with the shrink wrap method. You're totally missing out!

I think trues are able to fit ppl with foot shapes that arent "avg" to a degree. The moldability allows for a bit of flexibility in fit but obviously some people will just need custom boots. I fit into a supreme pretty well but there are some hot spots. Even with my one100 that I wore for 7-8 years, I had no pain skating, but when walking I had pinching above my ankle area. With my as1 it was super painful all over to break in. Once broken in they were ok but protection was non existent. I took light passes off the ankle that hurt like hell. I took a bomb from the pt off my trues and didn't miss a shift and I don't have the extra shot blockers. Vapor 2.9 I had to return. Overall fit felt ok but produced quite painful lacebite on the top of my forefoot from slight volume issues. Trues are the only skates I didn't have any pain or break in period out of box. Yes mine are customs but I'm sure I would fit fine into retails. You are right though. The as3 and the second from the top jetspeeds are also top or the line skates. They're essentially the previous years top skate. So if you look at it that way they're technically newer than trues which haven't changed tech wise except when they went to a diff carbon weave about 1.5 years ago. From my experience in terms of wrap and moldability. It's True (by a landslide), then CCM, and far down in third is Bauer. CCM gets soft really fast but I'm not sure if the materials are meant to get that soft since they recommend only to be baker for I think 3 mins. If done longer it does get pretty soft but since they recommend 3 mins, I'm sure it can't be good for the materials.

Sizes are your normal half sizes. Widths are in regular and wide.

Warrior imo is the stiffest of the ones you listed. CCM seems on par for their flex rating. True used to be on the whippy side but right now is about on par with their ax9 line. Bauer is a touch stiffer imo but they are rated at 77 flex and not 75.

CCM is def longer than any other company right now. My trigger 4s I have to cut about 3 inches off whereas for true and Bauer it's about 2-2.5. I even saved the pieces I had to cut. If you don't believe me I'll post a picture up. I have my sticks all measure at 57.5" from heel to butt end. But yes, diff manufacturers do measure their sticks diff so 60" for one company won't be the same as another. Some measure the actual heel to the end, and some measure from the heel where it lays flat on the ground tot the end.

I would assume they would fit at LEAST the same amount of people that fit into retail Bauer or ccm and then some, since they are way more thermoformable than CCM and Bauer. If you don't have issues fitting in retail skates it'll be pretty much the "feel" that will get you to say yes or no. True boots are extremely stiff, however, they still allow good forward flexion. and of course they are so comfy! Imo Bauer and CCM the stiffness of the boot is the same throughout the quarter package which for me feels like you still need to break them in even after baking. True skates require no break in time. Yes, you need to get used to how they feel in general vs CCM and Bauer but there is definitely no breaking in/ hot spot/ painful periods

That's not what I would expect. I would just expect the trues to come with holder not attached but still include them since I'm paying for them.

Weird and doesn't make sense. If you pay for the product full price you should get everything, is holder and steel but not mounted. They must have changed things since last year bc when I ordered mine I asked for the holders not to be mounted and the holes to be drilled for an 4.0 holders, and that's what I got. Holder and steel on the side not mounted, which I ended up selling on the side. If they won't include the shift holders and you're paying full price that's BS. It's actually less work for them mounting the holders on, yet they are charging you the same.