Bauer 2010/2011 sneak peek...

[CapsFan 5]

Daoust 501 Gold

Touche

[JR Boucicaut 3793]

Daoust 501 Gold

Wasn't the 555 the Gold?

[shotty 7]

BTW, this is not the first time Bauer has timed their inventory "early" to run out on Year 2 product life cycle. Last year at this time 4 Roll gloves were gone and most Vapor skates had holes in their warehouse inventory, too. As a dealer I can check this info through my B-to-B website inventory info. This just means that smaller dealers have to be smarter with their booking orders. The days of counting on the vendor to stock inventory in large numbers for fill-in orders ended over 10 years ago. If anyone wants to complain that Bauer has run low on certain product, they have no idea how bad Easton has been forever in the fill-in department. If the dealer doesn't book the product from Easton he has no chance in hell of filling in if he sells out early. Why do you think Easton OPS can be hard to find at your LHS sometimes? The LHS is nervous about committing $$$$ to Easton OPS, then he sells through his modest inventory but finds Easton has no inventory for re-orders. This business is not so easy when you find out what really goes on.

i'm a rep. its SOP in most industries... its how we secure growth. threaten to have minimal fill in availability and put emphasis on booking orders. bauer/easton/etc. have a certain percentage set aside for warranty, and maybe single digit percentage for fill in. its how you run a lean business, which i'm sure you're well aware.

that being said, it makes me wonder how stores like sport chek in canada have shelfs full of seemingly fresh looking CNTs in a variety of popular patterns.

[MLSman 22]

i'm a rep. its SOP in most industries... its how we secure growth. threaten to have minimal fill in availability and put emphasis on booking orders. bauer/easton/etc. have a certain percentage set aside for warranty, and maybe single digit percentage for fill in. its how you run a lean business, which i'm sure you're well aware.

that being said, it makes me wonder how stores like sport chek in canada have shelfs full of seemingly fresh looking CNTs in a variety of popular patterns.

You're not kidding...sounds EXACTLY like the IT business. Manufacturers in the IT space follow the same MO. It's all about minimal fill and bookings in hardware. Software is the exception, where there is HUGE margin and all up front cost. No real additional cost after that with the exception of minor cost in support and maintenance.

[DarkStar50 679]

DS50,

501s were offered in a "TITANIUM" model.

555 = Gold

444 = Silver

333 = Bronze

IIRC, the 555/444/333 lines were the first skates offered after Canstar's purchase of the Daoust brand. The fit was different than that of the 501 or 301, and the quality was nowhere near what the 501/301 lines were.

Yea, I have a pair of 501 with the gold Titanium blades. Daoust was DOA once Canstar bought them. During the 80s Daoust skates sold in my old shop were easily the #1 skates. The good old days when Gilbert Perrault used to rock the 301.

[aarondevera 0]

I realize a release date/information regarding the new Supreme line of sticks is still pretty far away, but I was curious as to how Bauer will plan on marketing the technology or features of the presumed TotalONE or One100. Since the X:60 seems to no longer cater to just low-kickpoint users with its multi-zone flex, what does that mean in regards to the whole "one line of sticks for quick wristers, one line for clappers" formula?

Any ideas/thoughts/theories on how such a thing might be addressed with the new Supreme line? Not unlike many users on this board, the One95 is bar-none one of the best sticks I have EVER used. Once again, I realize all will be revealed in time, but I couldn't help but wonder...

[furlanitalia 1]

BTW, this is not the first time Bauer has timed their inventory "early" to run out on Year 2 product life cycle. Last year at this time 4 Roll gloves were gone and most Vapor skates had holes in their warehouse inventory, too. As a dealer I can check this info through my B-to-B website inventory info. This just means that smaller dealers have to be smarter with their booking orders. The days of counting on the vendor to stock inventory in large numbers for fill-in orders ended over 10 years ago. If anyone wants to complain that Bauer has run low on certain product, they have no idea how bad Easton has been forever in the fill-in department. If the dealer doesn't book the product from Easton he has no chance in hell of filling in if he sells out early. Why do you think Easton OPS can be hard to find at your LHS sometimes? The LHS is nervous about committing $$$$ to Easton OPS, then he sells through his modest inventory but finds Easton has no inventory for re-orders. This business is not so easy when you find out what really goes on.

i'm a rep. its SOP in most industries... its how we secure growth. threaten to have minimal fill in availability and put emphasis on booking orders. bauer/easton/etc. have a certain percentage set aside for warranty, and maybe single digit percentage for fill in. its how you run a lean business, which i'm sure you're well aware.

that being said, it makes me wonder how stores like sport chek in canada have shelfs full of seemingly fresh looking CNTs in a variety of popular patterns.

I could never figure it out either when they first got the Si-Core for 129.99. But when you look at the Forzani Group and their size, I'm sure there is an agreement with Easton. Not to mention their stick order is far greater than any LHS. Heck, it's probably greater then the stick order of all the Hockey Stores in BC.

[larrivee 3]

Got my hands on the totalOne and one100 today.

Holy hell the TO is light. Very, very, very light. I didn't play with the adjustable tongue, though the tongue did seem very thin to me. Stiffness of the boot seemed the same as the one100. For me, the additional cost is not justified- it's gonna be a pricey skate- but for guys with real wheels these boots will be nice. Just insanely light.......

one100 weighed the same (to me) as the 95. I was told the only differences were the cosmetics and the tongue. That's all I saw as well.

Skates are very hard to tell apart unless you are up close.

[furlanitalia 1]

I'm guessing price can't be mentioned?

[TBLfan 25]

I'm guessing price can't be mentioned?

I'd keep that to myself... especially because you don't want to give these poor skate whores a stroke.

[furlanitalia 1]

No I want to know it! lol.

[ntwusc 62]

My buddy who works at the shop told me about what they'd cost, and all I can say is that I was shocked :o

[theWB 2]

Got my hands on the totalOne and one100 today.

Holy hell the TO is light. Very, very, very light. I didn't play with the adjustable tongue, though the tongue did seem very thin to me. Stiffness of the boot seemed the same as the one100. For me, the additional cost is not justified- it's gonna be a pricey skate- but for guys with real wheels these boots will be nice. Just insanely light.......

one100 weighed the same (to me) as the 95. I was told the only differences were the cosmetics and the tongue. That's all I saw as well.

Skates are very hard to tell apart unless you are up close.

"Supposedly" fixed the very small amount of durability issues also. MAP on the TotalOne will be $800. Agree with you that the large additional cost isn't justified. The fusion steel is probably where a lot of that cost comes from, costs about twice what regular LS2 goes for.

[DarkStar50 679]

If you want to dance, you've got to pay the band.

Advantage #1: Fusion steel reduces weight. It is 27% lighter than LS2.

Advantage #2: The Reflex tongue with ALIVE composite inserts will drive your first four steps faster on ice. Faster acceleration will create quicker separation from the defender.

Yes, it will cost more to get more horsepower but not everybody gets to drive a Porsche.

[Law Goalie 147]

The change in the tongue sounds really, really interesting; it's a part of skate design that has always been largely passive (ie. just padding, a buffer between the laces and the foot). I can't wait to hear how it feels.

[Slapshot9123 0]

The change in the tongue sounds really, really interesting; it's a part of skate design that has always been largely passive (ie. just padding, a buffer between the laces and the foot). I can't wait to hear how it feels.

Exactly, the more I hear about these skates the more I want to put them on my feet. Might as well start saving up money for them now if I fall in love with them and 800 is gonna be the MAP.

[JR Boucicaut 3793]

The change in the tongue sounds really, really interesting; it's a part of skate design that has always been largely passive (ie. just padding, a buffer between the laces and the foot). I can't wait to hear how it feels.

I'm sure we'll get some initial thoughts soon.

[sebseb 0]

At this price tag, I'm curious if it's going to be the same skate that pros get, pro spec and all (no pro stock TotalONE, just the regular of the rack)

[fastbrother7 0]

Even with an at cost connection, one cant even try to afford this skate. Hockey skates are teetering into the professional figure skate price range. Well maybe not that much, but its getting there......The new bauer skates look good, but Ill have to leave them be:(

[cptjeff 0]

The thing that worries me is that the blades look like they're beginning to get to figure skate prices. With all the new coatings and special alloys, they're getting to be quite pricey. $120 or so for just the TotalOne Runners, that's insane. I hope to god we never come near the $300+ figure skaters wind up spending.

And for those who haven't heard the price range yet, that will give you an idea. You really don't wanna know.

[fastbrother7 0]

The thing that worries me is that the blades look like they're beginning to get to figure skate prices. With all the new coatings and special alloys, they're getting to be quite pricey. $120 or so for just the TotalOne Runners, that's insane. I hope to god we never come near the $300+ figure skaters wind up spending.

And for those who haven't heard the price range yet, that will give you an idea. You really don't wanna know.

I went to high school with several figure skaters back in the day, and I thought that having a $400 pair of skates was hot sh*t until one of them told me thier skates cost around $1200. That was in 98. Geez........

[cptjeff 0]

And theirs don't even have any exposed carbon fiber or cool graphics!

[Rustyhole 1]

And theirs don't even have any exposed carbon fiber or cool graphics!

black is always cool ;)

[lohnman 0]

will the totalone be available in C widths?

[DarkStar50 679]

We sell a lot of top end boot and blade sets to figure skaters. The elite boot from Graf is $700+ or Riedell is $600+. The best steel from John Wilson is $600+ or Paramount is $500. A $1200 price tag on figure skates is what it costs for the best. Consider that figure boots have changed little over a long period of time in construction while hockey skates in the last 10 years look and respond like nothing that was made in hockey in the 90s.