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Does anyone here use bladetech steel ? I've been fortunate to meet the owner of this company Jeff Azzolin, such a great guy who went out of his way to install the blades on my skate and profile them for me. I have nothing but amazing things to say about theese blades, I call them dancing shoes. If anyone likes black edge steel you would love bladetech. 

 

The he blade at the front of the skate springs as you put your weight on and it gives you energy transfer. The blade is highly engineered  and I haven't had to sharpen them after 15 skates and I'm not exaggerating. You will notice improvement in your skating right away as your glides become smoother and your turns sharper. The main idea behind these blades were to accommodate players with knee issues and back problems 

 

Www.bladetechhockey.ca 

 

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Love Bauer hate edge .. How many times ya gotta see players in the NHL have their blades popped out and struggling to get to the bench ... Blah.. If Bauer had a look at bladetrech I'm sure they would pursue to buy the company ..! Bauer makes the most amazing boot in hockey business hands down ... But with blades like this in their aresenal ... You can say good night to anyone trying to compete.. 

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10 hours ago, tonguesOUT4life said:

Love Bauer hate edge .. How many times ya gotta see players in the NHL have their blades popped out and struggling to get to the bench ... Blah.. If Bauer had a look at bladetrech I'm sure they would pursue to buy the company ..! Bauer makes the most amazing boot in hockey business hands down ... But with blades like this in their aresenal ... You can say good night to anyone trying to compete.. 

 

IMO this and the other post sounds like an advertisement to me. Bauer doesn't "make the most amazing boot in hockey" that's a general opinion. I think VH makes the best boot in hockey, others think CCM does, etc. It's personal preference. I for one haven't heard anything about Bladetech so if you're going to advertise, at least give some other sources. Pretty vague to just say "this steel lasts longer and your turns are sharper and smoother". 
From my knowledge, the EDGE system doesn't have a lot to do with blades popping out. I could be wrong but it has done more good than harm inn allowing players to not miss shifts. A lot of NHL teams now have extra steel on the bench and just swap them out if there is a problem. Look at the ref during the WSH @ PIT game a couple days ago. If he had EDGE holders and extra steel available, it would not have caused like a 5 minute delay.


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Whilst Bauer's trigger release has its occasional failures on ice (and these are mainly caused by puck strikes which generally cause damage regardless of what steel / holder you are using) this is more than offset by the speed of which you can swap steels out during a game.

The product looks interesting and I think the concept has some merit (think of suspension on vehicles) and I could be tempted to try it but..... like anything new and aftermarket it is a hard sell and the web site doesn't clearly explain some things. As I read it, one has to buy a brand new holder, I'm not sure about the steel so :- 

Does the new holder come with steels? (for CAN$130 I'd want it to and this would make the initial investment upfront easier to swallow)

Is the new holder any good and how closely does it mimic what it is replacing (quality, weight, pitch, length, feel, flex etc)?

Is the mechanism within the holder durable and replaceable / fixable if it breaks down or wears out? Rust issues?

Are the steels specific to the holder (this would overcome Bauer's patents) or can Bauer / Step etc steels still be used?

How good is their steel and how well does it hold an edge?

 

But maybe I just over analyse things. IMHO they need to provide more information, a good idea doesn't sell a product on its own.

 

And spent some more time thinking about this, how do they deal with weight? My son and I are in size 6 skates, he's around 150 whilst I'm at 190 and I'm sure one will find heavier skaters than me in size 6. How much does the performance change depending on the weight of the skater? It would be nice to be able to change the performance depending on what you like, hard spring with very little give or a softer spring with more give.

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It's an interesting idea. My first thought is even if you accept everything in their "study" at face value, the improvement is relatively small 2%-3%.  At the highest levels, where a small differences could earn you a lot of money? Sure,why not give it a shot.  For most of us, I don't really think that's worth $130 a pop, but that's really a personal decision. 

 

What confuses me is the design. On the main page they show a product that creates flex strictly through creating gaps and space between the blade and the holder. However, on the testimonial page there is a video with the guy from the Canadiens that describes the technology as having an actual spring in the front tower of the holder. My first question with that is why the design change?  I think I have a good idea why, but I'd like to hear directly from the inventor. The second question is were the test results gathered with the current design or the original spring-based design?  From a personal perspective, the spring-based design seems much more interesting and much more innovative and potentially performance enhancing. 

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3 hours ago, tonguesOUT4life said:

Keep an open mind and give them a try .. I asked Jeff for a extra set for myself because I love the feel and performance . 

Nobody here has shown any evidence of being closed minded. 

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1 hour ago, OptimusReim said:

Nobody here has shown any evidence of being closed minded. 

Never said anything about anyone close minded it's just sometimes people gotta give it an extra effort to try 

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So do I need to buy a new holder from them or is it just the steel?

 

i don't see an option for Easton cxn steel when I click buy. 

 

I'm all for trying new tech but that's not an option for me on their website. 

 

Also so you make comparisons to black edge. I currently use blacksteel. Is this steel similar to them?  

 

 

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On 3/22/2016 at 1:32 AM, syinx said:

I wonder if Bauer's going to come knocking over the EDGE patent.

 

From what I saw on the website and on his skates they haven't touched the Edge patent as the only Bauer steel pattern they offer is for the LS2.

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5 hours ago, ID Rollerpop said:

 

From what I saw on the website and on his skates they haven't touched the Edge patent as the only Bauer steel pattern they offer is for the LS2.

If you go to the "Buy Now" tab and then click on the drop down menu the Edge holder is definitely one of the steel options. They list steel for the LS2, Edge, E-Pro, SpeedBlade +4.0, Graf Cobra and Ultra holders. There is no steel listed for Easton (CXN or Razerblade).

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Got a chance to see these skates for the first time in person today at hockey .. Unbelievable man .. But then again my boots are not a custom fit from Bauer .. I just went and found myself the snuggiest pair of one nine limited edition skates that fit so well put some double felt tongues on and gave it a 3mm heel lift with some great runners ... And I'm in the market for a new pair this summer ... Excited lol.

 

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I'm all for new innovations in hockey and looking for new breakthroughs but when you say "you just gotta try it" at 130 bucks when I'm not even sure what I'm getting for that price as mentioned above, you just sound like one of those people on social media who gets a discount for advertising for them. And that hasn't persuaded me. For that reason I'm out

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6 hours ago, adam14 said:

I'm all for new innovations in hockey and looking for new breakthroughs but when you say "you just gotta try it" at 130 bucks when I'm not even sure what I'm getting for that price as mentioned above, you just sound like one of those people on social media who gets a discount for advertising for them. And that hasn't persuaded me. For that reason I'm out

 Lol shout out to the Dragons Den intentional?

Funny either way......

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Hey, this is one of the owners of Bladetech Hockey.  We have read the feedback and will address the site issues.  If you have any direct questions please post them here.  We sell only the runners.  Our steel is a performance enhancing product made 100% in Canada with the best steel available.  

Sorry to Easton owners, we're not making runners for those holders.

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I dunno, the idea seems good to me. If these work anything like Sprung frames are for inline skates, I'm definitely interested in trying these out.

 

It's funny how people jump all over a 30 gram difference or basically new graphics on the old model (skates or stick etc) but $130 to much to invest in steel. I find steel one of the things that really makes a difference on the ice.

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45 minutes ago, malcb33 said:

It's funny how people jump all over a 30 gram difference or basically new graphics on the old model (skates or stick etc) but $130 to much to invest in steel. I find steel one of the things that really makes a difference on the ice.

 

I agree on the importance of good steel in your runner. And that's partially why I'm skeptical about these runners - intrigued and interested but skeptical. Coming from the Step Steel on my old pair I'm seriously wishing for something better than Bauer's LS Edge runners - including both the LS4 and LS Fusion - for the Edge holders. The manufacturer makes bold claim "made with the best available steel" but sorry at $130 a pop ($40 more than I'd have to pay for a LS4) I wish there was a bit more substance in their claim.

 

I just hope Bauer doesn't shut them down before I'm convinced enough to give them a try...

 

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On March 24, 2016 at 8:34 AM, adam14 said:

I'm all for new innovations in hockey and looking for new breakthroughs but when you say "you just gotta try it" at 130 bucks when I'm not even sure what I'm getting for that price as mentioned above, you just sound like one of those people on social media who gets a discount for advertising for them. And that hasn't persuaded me. For that reason I'm out

No buddy I do not get any sort of discount on any product and you got it all wrong , paranoid much ? All I'm going to tell you is I loved the steel enough to tell the world about it, you sound like one of those guys who actually get discounts for advertising that you accuse others of it lmao .. If you are going to complain about 130 bucks then go be cheap shop at wal mart 

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On March 22, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Bbd94 said:

 

IMO this and the other post sounds like an advertisement to me. Bauer doesn't "make the most amazing boot in hockey" that's a general opinion. I think VH makes the best boot in hockey, others think CCM does, etc. It's personal preference. I for one haven't heard anything about Bladetech so if you're going to advertise, at least give some other sources. Pretty vague to just say "this steel lasts longer and your turns are sharper and smoother". 
From my knowledge, the EDGE system doesn't have a lot to do with blades popping out. I could be wrong but it has done more good than harm inn allowing players to not miss shifts. A lot of NHL teams now have extra steel on the bench and just swap them out if there is a problem. Look at the ref during the WSH @ PIT game a couple days ago. If he had EDGE holders and extra steel available, it would not have caused like a 5 minute delay.


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Ever occurred to Bauer pays the refs to do it on national tv ?? Bottom line it's a shit holder I liked the light speeds enough to not even change them .. Nothing against Bauer I'm still using their product right their holder ?? So save your conspiracy theories for the loony bin bro ! I love the steel from blade thech !

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On March 22, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Vet88 said:

Whilst Bauer's trigger release has its occasional failures on ice (and these are mainly caused by puck strikes which generally cause damage regardless of what steel / holder you are using) this is more than offset by the speed of which you can swap steels out during a game.

The product looks interesting and I think the concept has some merit (think of suspension on vehicles) and I could be tempted to try it but..... like anything new and aftermarket it is a hard sell and the web site doesn't clearly explain some things. As I read it, one has to buy a brand new holder, I'm not sure about the steel so :- 

Does the new holder come with steels? (for CAN$130 I'd want it to and this would make the initial investment upfront easier to swallow)

Is the new holder any good and how closely does it mimic what it is replacing (quality, weight, pitch, length, feel, flex etc)?

Is the mechanism within the holder durable and replaceable / fixable if it breaks down or wears out? Rust issues?

Are the steels specific to the holder (this would overcome Bauer's patents) or can Bauer / Step etc steels still be used?

How good is their steel and how well does it hold an edge?

 

But maybe I just over analyse things. IMHO they need to provide more information, a good idea doesn't sell a product on its own.

 

And spent some more time thinking about this, how do they deal with weight? My son and I are in size 6 skates, he's around 150 whilst I'm at 190 and I'm sure one will find heavier skaters than me in size 6. How much does the performance change depending on the weight of the skater? It would be nice to be able to change the performance depending on what you like, hard spring with very little give or a softer spring with more give.

It's just that Bauer is savvy when it comes to hyping things and getting inside every kids mind lol .. I know kids with a supreme foot buy vapours coz of how they look and complain about pain all season long .. 

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1 hour ago, tonguesOUT4life said:

Ever occurred to Bauer pays the refs to do it on national tv ?? Bottom line it's a shit holder I liked the light speeds enough to not even change them .. Nothing against Bauer I'm still using their product right their holder ?? So save your conspiracy theories for the loony bin bro ! I love the steel from blade thech !

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read on MSH. 

 

You seriously think Bauer has referees on the take to make a big deal out of breaking steel?

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