OrrSmith 4 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 Just received my new VH skates. Rob was a miracle worker once again and accommodated me immensely with regards to the qualms I had with my previous pair. I didn't think VH Skates could fit better, but here they are:Specs:- Junior Size Priced Skate, new toecap- Enhanced Tendon Guard- New Enhanced Tongue- LS Edge Holder, LS3 Runners (Profiled to 11' +1 Forward Pitch)- 1/8" Heel Lift built into skateModifications:- Built off of a smaller last than my actual skate size. The wrap of my first pair of VH Skates were incredible, but completely hampered my forward flex no matter how much I heated and bent the top 3 eyelets outward. Rob suggested building the skate off a smaller foot last, thereby reducing the volume at the ankle and giving me more forward flex (I likened it to how Bauer built their boot ankles in that the wrap came from laces more than material), while maintaining that gorgeous wrap around the rest of my feet.- The smaller last also slimmed up the areas around my midfoot and arch and felt much snugger and more wrapped, a lot like my old Mako skates.- The enhanced tongue was chosen to compensate for the lacebite that could arise from my preferred ankle wrap, as well as giving me a "diving board" tongue that snaps back into place after I've flexed into it.- I asked for no logo nor embroidery to give the skate a more minimalistic look.These feel even better than my old pair. Rob was even kind enough to source light blue laces for me when I asked. It's the little things in life. ;)Just received my new VH skates. Rob was a miracle worker once again and accommodated me immensely with regards to the qualms I had with my previous pair. I didn't think VH Skates could fit better, but here they are:Specs:- Junior Size Priced Skate, new toecap- Enhanced Tendon Guard- New Enhanced Tongue- LS Edge Holder, LS3 Runners (Profiled to 11' +1 Forward Pitch)- 1/8" Heel Lift built into skateModifications:- Built off of a smaller last than my actual skate size. The wrap of my first pair of VH Skates were incredible, but completely hampered my forward flex no matter how much I heated and bent the top 3 eyelets outward. Rob suggested building the skate off a smaller foot last, thereby reducing the volume at the ankle and giving me more forward flex (I likened it to how Bauer built their boot ankles in that the wrap came from laces more than material), while maintaining that gorgeous wrap around the rest of my feet.- The smaller last also slimmed up the areas around my midfoot and arch and felt much snugger and more wrapped, a lot like my old Mako skates.- The enhanced tongue was chosen to compensate for the lacebite that could arise from my preferred ankle wrap, as well as giving me a "diving board" tongue that snaps back into place after I've flexed into it.- I asked for no logo nor embroidery to give the skate a more minimalistic look.These feel even better than my old pair. Rob was even kind enough to source light blue laces for me when I asked. It's the little things in life. ;)Rather than a built in heel lift, why not go with the CXN holder with Step v-steel? Not a criticism just a question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syinx 139 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 Rather than a built in heel lift, why not go with the CXN holder with Step v-steel? Not a criticism just a question.There was just something about the feel of CXNs I wasn't a big fan of. Plus I travel a lot and carry extra steel with me and the availability of Edge runners just made life easier. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 715 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 There was just something about the feel of CXNs I wasn't a big fan of. Plus I travel a lot and carry extra steel with me and the availability of Edge runners just made life easier.Any idea what it was you didn't like about the CXN? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrrSmith 4 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 There was just something about the feel of CXNs I wasn't a big fan of. Plus I travel a lot and carry extra steel with me and the availability of Edge runners just made life easier.There was just something about the feel of CXNs I wasn't a big fan of. Plus I travel a lot and carry extra steel with me and the availability of Edge runners just made life easier.Where are your heel lifts built in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syinx 139 Report post Posted August 22, 2015 Any idea what it was you didn't like about the CXN?I'm not entirely sure, but there was something off during my stride. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I swapped to LS Edge holders on both my Makos and Mako IIs.Where are your heel lifts built in?No idea. Rob just built them into the boot for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I kept bottoming out in my VHs. Would shims fix this issue? If so, how high should I go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2094 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I kept bottoming out in my VHs. Would shims fix this issue? If so, how high should I go?Try step steel, it's a bit taller. That may help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Try step steel, it's a bit taller. That may help.I'm currently using Step Steel Black and it's not helping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2094 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I'm currently using Step Steel Black and it's not helping. Ah, sorry not much help beyond that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laserrobottime 149 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 I kept bottoming out in my VHs. Would shims fix this issue? If so, how high should I go?You could start with 4mm, as that's what Bauer, CCM, and Easton all selected for the new generation holders... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 You could start with 4mm, as that's what Bauer, CCM, and Easton all selected for the new generation holders...Thanks bud, I appreciate the help! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laserrobottime 149 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Thanks bud, I appreciate the help!No prob. I noticed the other day I was bottoming out a lot as well, but only when I play. Lining I don't turn as sharply and it's not an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 715 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Is it the forefoot that's touching when you bottom out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Is it the forefoot that's touching when you bottom out?Yeah, I have a super wide forefoot (4E). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 715 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 There's that video where SVH talks about modifying Blake Wheeler's boot in that spot to accommodate his tight turning radius. Maybe the new toe cap design improves on that problem area? It seems to be right where the arrow portion of it extends over to the side of the boot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) I'm planning on ordering a new pair, so I'll ask Rob/Scott their recommendation.I was planning on going back to retail, but when switching to Vapor 1Xs, they were just too shallow to accommodate my foot and gave me lace bite. Even though I'm a bit disappointed that I have to pay in USD, I think in the long run, it'll be worth it for the fit and comfort of the boot (since I'll be wearing them practically 7 days a week).On another note, the Wiz going VH: Edited August 23, 2015 by mc88 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davetronz 109 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 That's a hot pair of jets! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 715 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 This is the segment I was thinking of: https://youtu.be/PBUfeofOa90?t=140 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosmic 178 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 The red carbon fiber patch (tape or whatever it is?) is what makes the skate look good. I never liked the old material that VH was using for custom colors, but that red material looks awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2094 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 The red carbon fiber patch (tape or whatever it is?) is what makes the skate look good. I never liked the old material that VH was using for custom colors, but that red material looks awesome.What red? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tryandstopme 35 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 What red?The pic of the Wiz skates in mc88's post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimizk 114 Report post Posted August 23, 2015 This is the segment I was thinking of: https://youtu.be/PBUfeofOa90?t=140What is this coating?I'm considering to take almost carbon look, less leather wrapping for my new pair though, also I'm worried about this area's friction with the ice.Is this the same material as dip toe cap? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) What is this coating?I'm considering to take almost carbon look, less leather wrapping for my new pair though, also I'm worried about this area's friction with the ice.Is this the same material as dip toe cap?Looks like the hard plastic coating they use to protect the toe cap.Alright! Put in an order, let's see if they'll be able to accommodate the design requests (mock ups I created in about a night):LS Edge 263mm Holders pre-installed (without the steel, I'll be installing my own)Built-in 4mm shims??? -- I kept bottoming out on my current VH skates near the forefoot areas, please recommend a proper height adjustment or solutionVH Logo Blacked Out (Instep & Outstep logos) but keep "VH Footwear" text Black Wick LinerNylon Plastic Toe Cap OverlayEnhanced Sidewall ProtectionOne-Piece Polymer Tendon Guard"VH" logo on back of Tendon Guard in a gold metallic -- similar to the silver metallic material you use for the VH logo along the instep/outstep of the boot, but in goldBlack felt tongue with Black Enhanced Metatarsal Guard with white "MC 88" embroideryWhite-accented leather on front of Tongues -- White accents along the sides, with a black middle sectionRust-Resistant Eyelet Coating -- Preferably an all black coating. Here in California, we have very humid weather and my current VH skates didn't withstand the humidity and developed a lot of rust in a short amount of time.White accented leather material down eyelet 3 and black leather material down eyelet 4 and around the back of the bootBlack on Black and White on White Stitching Thread Edited August 24, 2015 by mc88 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimizk 114 Report post Posted August 24, 2015 You have great presentation skills.But how do you think about the new plastic toe cap from view point of your current bottom-out problem? The new toe cap looks good but also thicker than normal carbon toe cap. Of course probably your 4mm up tuning will help the problem though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted August 24, 2015 You have great presentation skills.But how do you think about the new plastic toe cap from view point of your current bottom-out problem? The new toe cap looks good but also thicker than normal carbon toe cap. Of course probably your 4mm up tuning will help the problem though.That's exactly what I'm worried about and put a note on that request for them to make a recommendation or offer a solution. Also, I'm a bit worried that if they don't make the toebox wide enough, would I still be able to punch the area out with the new toebox covering (since it extends pretty far back)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
