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I'm just waiting to see what True's future or long term strategy is for this skate. Easton took the MLX skate, refined it, and then brought it to market as a high skate in the Mako. When wasn't selling they brought in a less expensive version of it, which was still unsuccessful. Agree that in it's current form that it's a niche skate targeting a narrow consumer market. The majority of adults are buying skates in the $300 to $500 range, which eliminates the the current True skate from their skate search.

I'm pretty sure JR meant that CCM has the layer not true. Also different issues arise on skates for different people. Someone might have rivet issues and some might have tendon guards and some have both etc. If you read reviews for any products, there are issues for everything that may or may not appear for others. The only real consistent issue I have seen the qc for excess glue and other cosmetic stuff. My rivet issue was only after I had the holders replaced twice. So there's no way I can really blame true for this problem as there are many other factors that could be why. Like I said before, there are alot of true homers here but if you are tired of reading it, then why not just unsubscribe from this thread?

Actually I'm on vacation this week... but fair enough and I do appreciate your participation. I've said my piece. I'm not trying to knock the skate. I just think too many have drank the kool aide and need to be more objective. I'm done with the debate. Bored.

Completely understand; however, those of you guys that really know me- If I didn't like them I would just avoid talking about them as to not put myself in an awkward situation with my employer ( note I am a 1099 contractor and NOT a direct employee ). What's the old saying? Listen more to what I don't say? I generally don't care to comment on alot of stuff because, the usual comments of " yeah, but you work for them " or the general attitude that some take that it's their job to police or dissect comments from mfg's reps. It's hard to foster that behaviour if you want rep participation. I'm here to help if you have questions, but I don't have time to go back and forth with someone who needs to argue for sport or has time to kill at work. I certainly don't have those luxuries and you generally don't see me picking arguments or fights with members... I may have had a few heated discussions with @JunkyardAthleticthat go back 12 or so years, but he's also a friend of mine and I can just pick up a phone as well and hash it out with him. Again... Those of you who truly know me... Know that I have ZERO EGO in this. Which I have encountered working with certain individuals in this industry. I just don't get it. There have absolutely been a few challenges scaling up the operation in Winnipeg; however, that team in that facility is truly first class and will do their best to resolve any potential issue. Making skates by hand like they do might never give you the aestheitcs you have become accustomed to with mass produced skates. It's just a difference in the business model. Scalability / Volume & Profit Margins vs Smaller Scale / Hand Made & Better Fit. Scott truly feels his process produces a better fitting boot that just happens to perform better. Those were his two main goals when he got into this... Making money wasn't even on the radar... He had to figure that out as he went. Not an easy thing to do. Scott is truly a pioneer in this industry- And that is rare when you look at how many companies have failed or were bought out with the sole purpose of being shut down to create less competition. I know my dealers received a kit with additional parts including steel rivets that were more size appropriate for our shell design. I have not yet dealt directly / read in depth enough with the issue at hand, so I am unsure I can comment accurately on it. I would need to catch up on all the reading.

@Larry54 - Jeff was referring to True here.

One reason.. I want to make this thread better and more objective. And he was referring to True regarding added layer.

3. You don't sharpen my skates, and the guy that does can't do that.

1. Okay. If you say so. 2. No. They don't.

The height of the wheel is set by the user to touch at the point where the curve of the heel begins, and will match that height on the toe end. But the system has a pressure regulating mechanism that keeps it from shaving off more of the toe and heel (like most pro shop employees will do) and altering the curve. The Sparx sharpens the curve, but doesn't alter it.

I just got my shipping conformation today, pumped to get it in. Ordered it on the 1st and shipped today if anyone was curious of order processing time frame.

Just ordered mine. Free shipping and 0% for 12 months forced my hand. Looking forward to its arrival.

@Leif never heard of this before...please take a picture or video of how you are testing if it is out,and send to me shayne@prosharp.com

Look at skates from these lines, Jetspeeds, ribcors, vapours. Get the heel fit right first then consider getting the boot stretched to fit a wide forefoot. Unfortunately you have a foot shape that an out of the box retail boot generally does not fit without some modification.

Disagree on 2 points. 1. I personally am able to maintain the profile and adjust 1 time per season without rounding toes and heels. 2. Sparx and Pro sharp round the toes and heels on every sharpening therefore change the overall profile. Neither are perfect yet. So it will not maintain through the life of the blade because it shortens the life.

The OTHER issue (especially on these types of skates) is the rivet size. In almost every case, the shop either replacing OEM rivets or doing an aftermarket holder swap uses the wrong size, therefore they're longer and there's internal space, allowing the rivet to get loose. Or they're not experienced enough to fit rivets and use a longer one because it's easier.