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I guess that makes sense. I’ll happily enjoy both wearing my True skates and driving my Tesla

Thread sounds a lot like Tesla threads I've read. The owners of Teslas worship their cars, even with it's faults, because it's got a fantastic engine/tech and it's got a lot of panache. They'll defend it to the death even if there are good counter arguments against buying one. Whereas people who don't own them, nitpick the hell out of the faults and cost, saying they're overrated, without acknowledging the innovation and what Tesla is getting right. Human nature, albeit somewhat misguided, playing out on both sides. Personally, I think Teslas have ridiculously amazing engines and cutting edge tech, but there is room for a lot of improvement in QC and tolerances. Similar to this thread, Trues are not for everyone, but for some they're a real step up in improvement, fit, and innovation (and that's not "kool-aid"). Do they have room for improvement? Sure. Full disclosure, I own them, and so far they've been great. Are they perfect? No. Could I make a retail skate work for me? Yes. But did I reach the point where I saw the value in them vs purchasing a similar cost skate which I would have to mod anyway? Absolutely.

I think you got it right, same for the person who mentioned Apple. This is fan thread with some general info, nothing more. The reason I (and others) got caught up in all this is fan threads aren’t what MSH is about. What separates MSH from other sites is MSH is able to be fair and objective. No Pom Pom waving BS like other sites. The other facet of this thread that gets me is, the unwillingness to hear the negative side of the argument. Which I think makes matters worse. We all welcome a fair and honest analysis of the product and the users experience as long as it’s a two sided discussion. Once we lose our objectivity, we’re not better than any other site out there. Thsts my early morning low coffee intake rant. I will sit back and follow this thread with the hopes it can be objective, but will refrain from posting.

I totally agree. I think MSH is most helpful when we objectively see both pros and cons to a product through user experience, as no product is perfect. The point I was making in my post is exactly what you are stating...that we need to see both sides of the coin so that then we can determine for ourselves if there's value in trying out that product. And no need to refrain from posting in this thread, imho. I've gained a lot of insight about stick flex across brands, and many other things from your past posts, which I very much appreciate. But I think it's probably best that we all return to discussing the actual product in this thread...lol.

A bit on the pricey side but worth every penny?

I've been in my True's 3 months now and personally I can't say enough good things about them. Here in Qatar we have an Expat League and back in November their Pro Rep came out and fitted those who wanted to take the plunge. Of the 17 guys who ordered 16 are very happy. One guy isn't. Since it is Qatar and we don't have a LHS here we have to order everything online. After skating for 3 months I'm ordering a second pair as a backup, I can't ever see putting my foot back into anything else. The other thing I realized looking back at all the years I've skated, even though I thought whatever I was wearing fit, in reality an off the shelf skate didn't fit somewhere and I realized I always settled on the best fit available off the shelf, and not the best fit in reality. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

Just not at the same time I hope. Edit: @shoot_the_goalie it also reminds me of Apple discussions I've encountered. Emotions and brands are a funny mix.

After 600 fits i can tell you 35% of my customers are on the 3rd and 4th pairs. I have maybe 10% that either decided not for them or went to another skate. I recently had an OHL player that swore X brand was the best but his feet were killing him. Mom and Dad asked if he could try my son's that he had grown out of. Coach said his skating is even better and that was his strength being he is a smaller guy. But I have other guys at that level and higher that tried them and are like no thanks. Not for everyone.

I absolutely agree. I've never had a customer regret buying Trues. But just like you've said for example, the only reason I've held off for example is because I know how hard I am on skates personally and I'm undecided on their durability long term/heavy usage. However from fittings I've done all reports are positive on durability so far

First time I’ve got something to post. Picked this beauty up at the local sports shop when they had a sale on some pro stock sticks for 149€ when the normal price is 349€, so I couldn’t resist. Sebastian Aho Pro stock Warrior Alpha QX.

These arrived today. They actually have more padding than I anticipated.

You’d need a template to measure up against. You could trace a freshly-profiled set onto a piece of paper and reference to that.

Ok, everyone get back to the topic.

Just 15 more hours to go in clinicals after today. Then, starting ride time on the ambulance in a couple of weeks. There's finally a faint light at the end of the paramedic school tunnel.

Ignore the people who say you can't do it. Work hard and listen to advice you get along the way, and have fun. You may never get out of a bottom tier beer league, but that's hardly the point. Just get out and have fun. I started at 27, BTW. Now 33.