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Ice warehouse just released videos on the stick. They're just re-skins.

The fact that the big box stores immediately try to push aftermarket insoles with every skate sale points to this. They used to be an aftermarket solution for certain problems, now they are hyped as a must have.

You can keep them inside during the bake but it doesn't reduce the softness and thickness. They're terrible insoles imo. I don't know why true would use such thick insoles that deaden the feel of your edges.

Does anyone know of an existing table of the measurements of all the blade holders out there? Particularly, height of the forward pillar, the rear pillar, and the ramp angle (i.e. the forward lean angle). If one doesn't already exist, I'd be happy to compile one from user-submitted measurements. I think this would be very useful info for folks trying to modify skates to work with their biomechanics.

Hey all, I know we have some profiling gurus on here and I am trying to help my son who just turned 8. He's been skating for a couple years now and plays on a local AA travel team. His skating ability is good and is on par ( not phenomenal ) compared to his teammates, but he looks stuck in the mud when he needs to get up and go during games. He's very tall for his age and solid ( about 85-90 lbs ). I have him on 5/8th regular hollow and he's currently in a size 1.5 Bauer Supreme M4 Junior skates that has removable steel. The steel is the Bauer 13' radius "balance blades" and he's been on those 13' radius blades since he started skating a few years back. I grabbed his next pair of supremes on clearance ( also Bauer Supreme M4's ) in size 2 and they too have the 13" balance blades but are 221mm. My question is, should i get him out of the 13" radius and if so, what radius would be ok for him to transition too? Or do i explore the profiling route? I do know quite a bit about profiling for adult size skates and how it works and the potential benefits ( i'm using an ellipse profile on my CCM 100k Pro skates and loved it from day 1 ), but i know little with regards to kids size stee bc the steel is so short. is there a benefit or specific route to go for kids sizes? Runner length is 212mm Thanks !!

Really hope this new suspension frame comes out soon! Long time sprung user here - I recently replaced all the arms from another set I had as back up, but now every other game a red spring part between the arms is crumbling mid game? Anybody had this issue? I ordered extras off sideline swap and those are going one by one not sure what to do. I’m 6’4” 230lbs and haven’t had this issue since using sprungs starting in 2014 - maybe the materials in these parts are dated now? Not looking to go back to rigid frame/R1 😬

Glad you seem to like the pants overall. FYI my usual pants clothing size (Levi's jeans for instance) are usually 33 so that's why I went with Med-50 size Tackla pants. I think I got the right size. The "locked in" feel was something I was looking for when buying the 9000s. They aren't perfect but so much better than what I tried in the past.

Yep I got the pants from The Hockey Shop BC. Even if I’m located in Quebec I like to order there. Probably my 4th or 5th order with these guys (skates, stick and protection) Never disapointed. They have lots of stuff in stock and quick shipping.

I might check these out at the hockey shop in Langley in the near future, which by the price I'm assuming you got you're from as well?

It's being headed up by the Canadian distributor for Louisville Baseball & Softball, amongst other brands. For those that don't know, Sherwood only owned a license of the TPS HOCKEY brand from Hillerich & Bradsby, who years later, sold out to the Chinese company that owns many other brands, including Wilson, DiMarini. Before that, however, the "TPS Hockey" brand did not survive for whatever reason, whether it was insolvent or license not renewed, I don't know.

Yeah they look to be on the higher profile vs the 9000s. I'm playing in a beer league, once a week (or 2 times sometimes). So I guess the 9000 will be all good for me.

Reviving this thread as I pulled the trigger on Tackla 9000 pants recently. I'm almost 6' - 180lbs. Went with Med-50 Tackla size. This thing fits like a glove. My issue with other pants brands (CCM-BAUER) was the fit was too loose on hips and thighs. Pants felt unstable when skating at higher speeds. Quality seems pretty great for a $119cad pants (regular price advertised $200). Got to say I'm super happy so far. Protection is generous on hips but not annoying at all. Probably not the lightest, but weight isn't an issue.

Converted a pair of True's 'whiteout' skates. Way too loud for ice, but I've been dying for this roller combo for years. Now I'm just debating between silver or black lowers for my primary wheel setup

been skating on fbv for a decade now and couldn’t imagine ever going back to a regular hollow. who cares what NHLers use. i’m a 40 year old beer league player

With all due respect this is a crazy take haha. My dolomites feel like a weighted rubber training stick and they are severely bottom heavy compared to todays sticks, along with the synergy from 2 decades ago. They blade and shaft torque open and you feel it. I would say there is definitely tech that has improved the stick game, maybe the lightness of todays sticks hasn't "improved" the stick game per say, but the release/balance/power of these sticks compared to the latter is two different worlds in my opinion

Any updates? I know a couple guys who have gotten to sample the Fizix and said very good things. Anybody heard of production updates?

I wanted to post this info somewhere online for any of those in the market for skates as this topic was dabbled on but no one had direct experience to compare one to the other. I took 7 years off playing hockey due to kids and my last skate I used and loved prior to the time off was a Bauer Supreme something or other with a techmesh style boot. I don't remember the model exactly what it was identical to what a One90 skate was a year or two prior. When I got back into hockey I purchased a new skate and opted for the Jetspeed Control 2023 skate (Special Make Up [SMU] skate for Source for Sports) as the one piece booth technology seemed more advanced than what Bauer was doing and everything tended to say stiffer is better. I never lace up my top eyelet and leave the lower portion of the slate just snug while the last 3 eyelets are done very tight to keep my heel locked. I played AAA and eventually JrA in Ontario as an underager when I was younger. I'm now 34, 5'9", 200lbs (at the gym alot, not a round belly) and would consider my skating style one with quick feet, agile and constantly moving my ankles to obtain decent edgework. In the past I always used a 9-10' radius pitched one degree forward and a 3/4" hollow. I'm currently playing 4x/week and coaching 4-5 days/week so the skates saw a good amount of use. The Jetspeeds were paired with Step Black steel and had a great heel lock and seemed to fit me well. The issue I always notice was that I found it harder to use my edges - to the point where I felt like I needed to go with a sharper hollow. This was odd to me as I never had this problem in the past, even when I was younger and only 175lbs as I hadn't filled in yet. I found myself running wide and bumping up against the boards, think of take a shot on net at speed, goalie makes the save and the whistle blows so you loop below the red line and come up the boards. I would tend to almost always run wide which never happened to me before. Since I had taken so much time off, I chalked it up to things like the wrong profile, my own technique etc. I chased various profiles (had three sets of steel) but never found my skates to be the same from what I was used to. I felt like my foot was too "locked in" and didn't have enough mobility - this didn't make sense because my ankle flexion was fantastic with the top eyelet not done up. After a year and a half of this I had the realization that maybe these one piece boots were too stiff compared to the Bauer's I was used to using. I didn't want to believe it as the only way to test that out was to buy a new pair of expensive skates while my Jetspeeds were still in great shape and completely broken in. I ended up biting the bullet and purchasing a pair of Bauer Vapor X Shift Pro's - these are Bauer's SMU skates for Source for Sports and Bauer's equivalent to the Jetspeed Controls I was using so it's a great comparison. At first I definitely noticed the lack of padding in the Vapors compared to the excessive amount in the Jetspeeds, they didn't feel uncomfortable, they just had less of a heel lock. Once tied up (again, skipping top eyelet) the heel lock was fine. I couldn't use Superfeet in the vapors which I've used for the past 2 decades, as it made my heel no longer lock into the Vapors, so I am currently using them with the stock insole. The first time on the ice, I realized the Jetspeeds were the issue and they were too stiff. I had a hard time in the Vapors at first as it felt like my feet were too lose and I'd be too much on my edge and almost slide out. A few times on these skates and I got used to it and now it's fine as the stability has come back. Let me be clear that it isn't the boot itself that is less stiff, the Vapors using the Curv carbon boot are a very stiff boot similar to the Jetspeeds. I think it has more to do with the one piece booth vs outsole. In the Bauer's it feels like the front half of the blade holder is actually flexing and bending, allowing me to use the outside edge more aggressively without having to have my body leaned over at an insane angle. This allows me to cut in tighter while keeping my upper body stable. The Jetspeeds felt like the front of the blade holder were so stiff that there was absolutely no flex between the booth and holder meaning it was harder to go onto your outside edge without fully leaning your body over at an aggressive angle to match the angle you want your skate/edge at. To me, this is the big difference between the one piece and traditional two piece booth design. For someone like myself who has spent countless hours refining their skating on a stiff boot with an outsole, this is how I have learned to used my edges, I cannot have my whole ankle down to the blade, locked in like a ski boot. For those North South skaters, I'm sure it would be fine, especially those that have always skated on a one piece boot. However, the difference between these skates was huge and it made me realize how much of my problems that I was chasing had to do with the booth design. I have used the Bauer's now for about 3 weeks and they are pretty much broken in now. Another issue I had with the Jetspeeds was that their front facing/eyelets are so stiff that they don't wrap around the foot nearly as well as Bauer. They tend to pull the whole boot in instead of wrap. On the Vapors I have, the eyelets are now nicely shaped around my foot much better. I do however think that CCM had a more durable boot design with their one piece booth construction, I would expect them to last longer. The Vapors anatomical toe cap is much better at reducing negative space around my toes. I prefer the minimalist foam in the Vapor, in my experience it is a less is more approach and I prefer it. The foam in the Vapor molded and shaped itself much faster and better to my foot after the original bake. Whereas the CCM has a lot thicker foam but it seems to be less formed to my foot when you look at its contours. I also prefer the longer tongue in the Vapors as I put my tongues under my shins and don't run very long shinpads (13") as I have them stop before they interfere with the top eyelet of the skate. In the CCM's, the tongue would pop out if I didn't make sure my shin pad was low enough when I taped them. Hope this review/experience helps people out there, I am convinced that the trend in stiffer skates is not necessarily a black and white thing and there are reasons why one or the other may be better. FWIW, I use a Quad Zero profile, a 3/4" Fire Ring on my Sparx and I am a size 7.5 Fit2 in Bauer, and a size 7 regular (D) in the CCM with the forefoot stretched out.