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I think coach's interviews at this point are commonplace, Pens do them for regular broadcasts, I would imagine others do as well, but I agree, it is probably irritating and you aren't ever going to hear anything surprising. Would be awesome to hear, "Well, some guys were flat in the first period, especially Bob, so he's glued to the bench which should help us turn things around..."

I love Doc, McGuire, not so much.

I would email PSH. One, they will be able to help you with fit and two they may not be so strict about returns, never know. Hockey Monkey also has pro stock pants and allow you to return for credit.

The pattern of garbage officiating has been going on so long that I am convinced that yes, it is an impossible sport to officiate, or they don't care. But that was an obvious call.

Yeah, that is crazy, but at this point you just have to shrug your shoulders, they don't seem to care.

Tim Conway! I just watched the dentist skit with my kids and I thought I was was going to have a heart attack I was laughing so hard. And I have seen it a million times. Great talent.

Wow, I just figured out that the circle or star takes you to the first unread post! Seriously, I have been wondering why this interface didn’t have that and opening the thread at page 1 every time I wanted to see new content. First world problem solved but solve nonetheless.

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Well, it isn’t like Boston is known for its politeness...

Well, intent and injury should have nothing to do with what is called, but it is still surprising that apparently there isn't a 5 in the rules for headshots so I guess the right (and only possible) call was made on the ice.

I can say not predatory from the standpoint of headhunting, but like the Wilson hit on ZAR last year, Anderson was already engaged with Chara and had no way to see that hit coming. The hit was almost entirely to the head. But you are right, there is no major for a hit that they claim to want out of the game, did that change?, no provision for a misconduct, but there is a match penalty. Good job NHL.

Wow, not in any way hyperbole, but the 2:00 to McAvoy for a predatory hit to the head of Anderson may be the worst call I have seen all year from a league that has by far the worst officiating of any sport. This league can’t get out of its own way.

Trotz spent a lot of years not moving past the first round, so I am not ready to call him the second coming of Scotty Bowman just yet. And no, I don't think that just because you have a bunch of good players you just sit back and let them play. Maybe in the NBA or lower levels of hockey but to do what they did in the regular season takes skill. There are a lot of facets to coaching, not just Xs and Os. Carolina seems to play a steady game, something that I think bodes well for the next two rounds.

Trotz definitely is in the top two for me. It is a regular season award so Cooper is my other finalist, not sure which way I land. Wasn’t expecting it to play out this way but then again wasnt expecting the Pens to get swept either. At this point I think Carolina is probably my team except my son has adopted Dallas so I have to tread carefully.

Chewie!!!! RIP Peter Mayhew, May the Force Be With You! i have a signed Chewie picture from him, I remember being so excited to get it.

Not trying to be a d@*k, addressing the arguments. The approach to risk of all type is reduction, not absolute precention because that is a hard if not impossible standard to demonstrate. Their methods and conclusions may be BS, but just because some qualified people disagree doesn’t make that fact either. There is often disagreement in methodology and interpretation of results by intelligent people on both sides. As for the “data whores”... you are veering off the argument and making it personal but more importantly, this is a data driven argument. So it is just natural for some of us who may operate in areas that deal with the engineering and risk to follow the same logic conversations in our domains would, and that is to require validation of assumptions. It is not meant to be personal but if it came across that way I apologize and am going to bow out of this thread so that we can preserve a positive atmosphere on this board.

Most likely because on the internet there is never a shortage of people giving opinions about things they don’t really understand.

1) What data has validated the ideal fit? Should a helmet fit the same everywhere and make contact at the temples the same as the back and forehead? Who says slight fit variation is a sufficiently contributing factor? 2) All research, especially those involving possible harm to humans start on a bench. It is easier to isolate variables and build the data set. Do you know how many subjects would have to participate in random on-ice testing and how much instrumentation would be required to account for all the variables that needed to be captured to make accurate conclusions? Not to mention the ethical issues involved in any kind of study like this. 3) The lack of logic of this statement requires no response. 4) Psychology permeates everything, but again, have you data to show this? One could then argue that without safety ratings cost would just lead to the same conclusion, as the safety is implied by the cost of the helmet.

Since we are debating testing methods then it isn’t a question of meaningless semantics, not that difficult a concept.

You can collect data on whatever you are measuring. Sensors can collect force delivered to a spot, the direction of the force can be measured. That data would be valid. The interpretation of how that data would translate into something as complex as concussion prevention is something different. That is why when you read the news the headline is usually some big leap of logic suggesting that science has found the answer or something ridiculous and when you read the story the scientist merely says, "We have data that could suggest blah blah blah but more studies are needed." People collect valid data all the time and misinterpret the results.

If the data is as collected properly the data is good and valid, you may disagree with the connections made and conclusions drawn. I would ask where the data is that determines proper fit? Should a helmet fit the same on all parts of the head? I would argue that most people don’t try on 10 different models of helmets, the pick a model and buy it. They may find it so uncomfortable they try a second model but as far as perusing model upon model I doubt it. I see college and national teams all wearing the same models, they can’t all have the same shaped melon. Well, football helmets have face masks which can catch on things. I saw a design years ago that was presented to the nfl with a seamless face mask to address this but it never went anywhere.

Which are what and how have they been validated to give usable results? I don't think that there is a lot a helmet can do against concussions (and that is just my opinion as someone who isn't an expert but a lot of the data presented seems to lean that way), but since forces are delivered in many ways, I can't say zero. There may be a debate out there for and against this testing protocol, but I want to hear the arguments with data to back up assertions.

Wow, never heard of some of these brands. C&B must make amazing tshirts and hats too for the ridiculous prices they are charging for them. The Ts must rival the Three Wolves Howling at the Moon... My old Easton bag is made of really thick whatever, it must be almost twenty years old with no real wear. Wish it would die, I would get something with more organization. Playing in the morning and having to take everything to shower and leave straight from the rink to work makes forgetting stuff too easy.

Wow, couldnt stay up so just finished watching this morning. Great OTs, Carolina just wouldn’t quit.

I honestly don't see how the NHL can't get their officiating in order. I didn't see the video until this afternoon. I assumed the worst then couldn't believe they called that. Love the sport but their officiating is the worst in pro sports and it isn't even close. Others have their controversial calls but the NHL is consistently a joke.