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1 hour ago, broadstreetbully16 said:Would they be different enough from the BASE Malkin?
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6 hours ago, Monty22 said:CCM sizing decals on the bottom of the outsoles are rarely present when pro stock skates hit the secondary market. Until recently VH/True sizing was printed on a label in the same place Bauer sizing info would be. My point was Trues aren't any worse or more of a gamble than any other custom skate from another manufacturer.
Your point is accurate if you account for people having done their homework, which the OP was doing by asking here, but @pantallica39's not the first to wonder if someone else's True skates will just work after baking as long as the length is close enough. This is unique to extremely thermoformable skates.
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9 minutes ago, Cavs019 said:All of that information is readily available and/or pictured 99% of the time. I don’t have any less sympathy for someone who buys a pro stock skate online than someone who buys a stock skate “1.5 sizes down from their shoe size” and ends up with a clown shoe/skate. Uneducated/misled online shopper is the same in both cases.
In fact I’d have more confidence buying something that is literally stamped “7” “D” “A” as opposed to trying to do the mental gymnastics required to discern that a Nexus D is actually a EE or that a 2015 CCM 6.5 is a 2017 CCM 7.
And a lot of times that’s all a mystery when considering second-hand Trues.
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41 minutes ago, Monty22 said:So, pretty much the same as buying any pro stock skate..
Yes, very much. The only difference I see is a lot of potential buyers seem to expect that the Trues’ extreme moldability guarantees that the skate is going to accommodate them. Even a tailored suit with elastane isn’t that universal.
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Totally agree. I’d do it if I could return them. Otherwise you could end up being stuck with Frankenstein’s hot potato returns with mismatched sizes, mismatched shot blocking reinforcement in the quarter panels, and an extra row of eyelets at the top.
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Totally agree with both of you @OldTrainerGuy and @IPv6Freely. The matter is just knowing if it is close or not. Buying these second-hand online can make that a challenge.
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12 hours ago, pantallica39 said:Any input would be helpful, Thanks in advance. I’m looking into a pair of True skates and found a lot of pro stocks avaible. I’ve seen a lot in both D and EE width but I have also read that they will mold to any width. Any truth to this? I know they are custom fit to the customers foot but if they do in fact mold to any shape it should be little to no problems if I heat me up correct?
Before you buy anyone else’s custom made skates, triple check that they fit. Try them on or compare your measurements to those on the skates’ spec form. If going by recorded measurements, I’d also seek a return guarantee in case it still just doesn’t fit right. It’s like buying someone else’s tailored suit, so the idea of a ready-to-wear size and fit profile doesn't apply. Buy with extreme diligence.
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16 hours ago, the_game said:Sorry I didn't think of this sooner, I have a buddy who is a biomechanical engineer who did a study on ACL injuries. He said pitch of skate would only be one small variable in the equation and there's no right or wrong answer, more so of what feels best and taking the right steps to train properly to avoid injury would be most important.
Is it published?
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6 hours ago, CaptainFranchise said:This is the new Ribcor skate?
There's almost no trim over the inner edge of the boot, beyond the eyelets. Duchy's whiteouts have very little left to make white!
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9 hours ago, rsmag9 said:Ok, thanks. I really like my Alkalai too but maybe I’ll try a more neutral pitched skate. Anyone know what’s the a similar fitting boot to the Alakali RPD Max+? Maybe a Bauer or Mission boot? Thanks!
Why not add forefoot lift to see if that helps? Keeps you in the same boot and a much more cost effective way to trouble shoot.
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1 hour ago, Nicholas G said:A retail FT1 is not even close to pro spec compared to a True skate.
How do you mean?
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@Nicholas G, is a retail FT1 not within the range of pro-spec? Not all professional FT1 wearers add protection to them.
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7 hours ago, Larry54 said:I would assume that the data they acquired from special cases like Byfuglien and Chara would be added to their process for making skates for other huge clients. Maybe they'll use your data to improve their process for guys of your size.
Byfuglien's a big guy but his feet aren't huge. I've seen his used MLX, VH, and True skates come up for sale in various online classifieds and he's a 10 or 10.5, iirc. Although they have to bear his heft, but they're not extraordinarily large pieces of footwear.
@mojo122 I know you say you're retiring from this thread, but can you elaborate on where you feel there's overwrap? Along the whole facing area or in a particular spot or spots?
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3 hours ago, CigarScott said:Yes, he's huge for a pro hockey player but he's tiny next to me. As he's an NHL player and based in Winnipeg, he was fitted in-person by Rob and probably had to have tweaks done on them until he actually skated in them in an actual game.
I heard anecdotally that he had his VH skates punched at a shop in Edina when they were in town to play the Wild. If that's true, he'd have had tweaks done even after using them in games.
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5 hours ago, Superjet said:A little better, but it still isn't what it should be for this level of skate. I'm going to figure out how much I want the facing shortened and have True make the modification.
Did you ever try the skate with two footbeds in? It sounds like the heel pocket is too high. In my opinion, lowering the facing won't address the fit all the way around your foot. If the volume is too high overall, the other areas that can't be cinched to your foot with laces will still be sloppy.
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On 8/20/2018 at 4:53 AM, Superjet said:
Here's an update from my previous posts. I used a pair of thinner tongues I had laying around to re-bake the skates so that they would wrap more and give me a tighter fit, along with clamping and using tensor tape. They still could be a little tighter with less negative space, but they are better than before. One strange thing about these skates is that the looser I tie them the better they seem to feel. True has offered to shorten the facing on the skates if I can't get them just right.
How's the heel lock after this intervention?
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3 hours ago, CigarScott said:Ah, makes sense. I would figure they could bring them in as "Warrior by Graf" or something like that to keep the name but let people know that they were Graf skates or at the very least buy the equipment so they could make their own unique skates.
Like you mentioned earlier, given that Warrior’s owned by New Balance, there’s a lot of footwear know-how in the greater corporate group. My thought has been, if the interest equation were in favor of doing it, Warrior would go ahead. Regardless of which direction they wanted to go, they could jump in the market and do ok with their investment. Even if they wanted to acquire a different small speed skate company to fold their IP into these hypothetical new skates, they could afford to do that. The fact that they haven’t makes me think the numbers really just don’t add up in that direction.
PS—sorry for contributing to taking this so far off topic!
PPSS—the new RX3 gloves have my interest 🙂
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1 hour ago, CigarScott said:You never know. If some private equity firm or hedge fund made True an offer that they couldn't refuse, I'm sure they'd listen. I was surprised that Warrior didn't pursue Graf; Warrior has New Balance backing so I'm sure they would have had no problem affording it. I just find it ironic that the hockey brand owned by a shoe company doesn't make shoes/boots for their own sport. 🙂
From what I recall from scattered posts is the problem with pursuing Graf in that way is it wasn’t a brand acquisition but a liscensing of the brand so it couldn’t be folded in under the any new brand’s roof. Graf-CH is still the parent company.
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That would be a big gain for CCM!
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2 hours ago, XS222 said:Alex Barkov making the switch to CCM it appears
Any photos of this new CCMed Aleks?
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37 minutes ago, adam14 said:Your statements here are false. Warrior is not a distant third, at retail or at the pro level because they have great offerings at great price point. Are they trailing in certain categories? Sure. distant? no chance.
The skate market is oversaturated so I'm glad warrior hasnt pumped all kinds of money into r and d to develop from the ground up.
Said it before, but I wish Warrior instead of HockeyTron had bought Alkali. That way, there would have been another alternative in the skate space and Warrior would have been able to avoid the R+D process (look how far their gloves came from the first generation!) and also expand their brand in roller a bit. Every once in a while there are still people who want that old Mission fit for ice hockey skates. It would have given a tried and somewhat niche but loved fit another go. That being said, I trust Warrior has looked countless times at the market and has stayed out for reasons that make sense to their accounting. I don't have that view, so my perspective is flawed due to my inherent limitations. I still think there's an appeal there.
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34 minutes ago, ParabolicActivity said:You would think selling direct they could offer more curves because they don't have to produce massive amounts of rach curve. Maybe a consideration for future generations.
As much as a lot of what STX is doing feels weird, it could turn out pretty sweet too. We all love going to the LHS and I hate when they struggle, but at the same time more direct sales could totally change how gear is bought. Maybe when you go to buy a stick you could have a ton of patterns and lie's to choose from. Or custom fitting more gear than just skates. Or even just simply lower cost.
BASE has been doing that with sticks. Problem with cutting out the middle man is, how do you get a sense of the product before you buy it? Word of mouth, trying teammates’ stuff out; then that’s the chicken and the egg problem, only a little different this time since they were previously stocked by shops, both B+M and online.
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On 4/18/2013 at 3:24 PM, vhfootwear said:Laserrobottime, we haven’t made a pair yet for a referee, but we certainly could. With the monocoque process we have the ability to modify the composite layering and the thermoplastic integration. Therefore, we could make the skate less stiff and with more thermoplastic. Meaning, it would be less protective and it would weigh more, but it would mold better and flex more, ultimately making it super comfortable.
I misremembered the exact substitution mentioned, but here’s the post I had in mind (clipped for relevance).
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15 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:No. There are no different stiffness levels. You either request shot blockers (which add stiffness) or you don't.
It would be nice if we could get an official word on that from True, because SVH mentioned they could make the original VH hockey boots less stiff by subbing fiberglas for carbon. Could be that’s not an option they’ll entertain anymore.
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I’d love a Kovy if I could check it out to make sure it’s right in key areas. Both Kovalchuk and Malkin seem to base a lot of their classic patterns on a PM9 with a toe curve, that’s why I’m curious about the degrees of overlap and uniqueness between the two.