Sprung Hockey

[shinedown21 0]

i need any sprung setup that fits a size 7 skate.

I'm looking to buy 2-3 setups

[althoma1 575]

I have a wheel question related to Sprungs. I'm using all Bronze Revision Variant wheels on Sport Court and am very happy with that setup. I was also asked to play in a league that's on smooth coated concrete (indoors) - I'm definitely not going to use the Revisions there and tear them up so I've been using ancient Kuzak 78a wheels (they're from about 8-10 years ago, but are still in pretty good shape because I haven't used them in about 5 years) - those have been fine for speed, but they'll slide out a bit on me at times.

I tried one session with 76a Hyper AssaultG wheels in the first 3 spots and the 78a Kuzaks in the back, but still had some slipping (that was the first time on the floor so it may have had dust issues) and it felt like I was skating in quick sand at times when trying to start. I was thinking of a different combination of the 76a AssaultG wheels and 78a Kuzaks (perhaps two 78a's on the outside and 76a's on the inside) and was wondering how I should place them. The Revision Wheel Matrix has soft wheels in the front and back and harder wheels in the middle for combo setups. Would this be the ideal for the Sprung Chassis as well?

I do have some 78a Rink Rat Hot Shots and older Revision Bronze wheels with a bit of wear I could try, but I've read in other threads that the dual pour wheels are wasted on coated cement and have poor durability on this surface so I haven't tried them. I know I won't necessarily get the same performance and grip I have on Sport Court with the Revision bronze's with any setup on concrete, but am hoping to improve on what I have now...ideally using wheels I already own rather than buying new ones.

I'm 6'2" about 215lbs and am using the A6 Sprung frames on some 8.5 Boss Blacks for the concrete surface (I'm using the A6 on 8.5 Torspo skates for the Sport Court surface). Ideally, I'd like to get to a setup that allows me to make tight turns with confidence without feeling like I'm skating in quick sand. I have that on Sport Court with the Sprungs and Revision Bronze wheels, but haven't been able to find the right combo for concrete and that's why I'm looking for advice from others. I can continue trying different things, but thought I might be able to shorten my trial and error period with a bit of advice here.

[fatwabbit 93]

I'm 6ft tall and about 190lbs, switching between the A6 and A7. I use a 76a wheel on the inside, and 75a wheel on the outside... so far its been pretty good.

[althoma1 575]

fatwabbit Posted Today, 07:46 PM

I'm 6ft tall and about 190lbs, switching between the A6 and A7. I use a 76a wheel on the inside, and 75a wheel on the outside... so far its been pretty good.

Thanks. So in your experience, you find it better to go harder on the inside? That concurs with the Revision Matrix. Is that setup on smooth indoor cement?

Have you tried any other setups before landing on that one? I was inclined to use harder wheels on the outside, especially the rear wheel, as that's where I seem to see the most wear, however; if the performance will be better with softer wheels on the outside I'm willing to go that way and change the wheels more often.

[shinedown21 0]

hey guys ... i just got my new a6 setups in the mail..... im going to mount them now but i have a stupid question.... to activate the 'spring action'... do i have to loosen the rocker arms or take something out ?

I tried to flex them outward and there's no give....

[kovalchuk71 212]

Not supposed to be any give with your hand. It will "spring" when you skate

[wetwilly17 6]

Not supposed to be any give with your hand. It will "spring" when you skate

yeah, i agree. after i had my sprungs mounted, i could only barely compress the wheels by hand. brings up a good question i've wondered about for awhile now though. perhaps keith could chime in:

given the large range of skaters weight, are there different springs available (different hardnesses) for the suspension? i use the a7 chassis and i'm only 165 lbs. i wont compress the suspension nearly as much as a 230lb player. sometimes i've wondered if i would benefit from softer springs.

[Sprungster 5]

yeah, i agree. after i had my sprungs mounted, i could only barely compress the wheels by hand. brings up a good question i've wondered about for awhile now though. perhaps keith could chime in:

given the large range of skaters weight, are there different springs available (different hardnesses) for the suspension? i use the a7 chassis and i'm only 165 lbs. i wont compress the suspension nearly as much as a 230lb player. sometimes i've wondered if i would benefit from softer springs.

The suspension is progressive, so the further they are compressed the harder they resist. When you consider how much force there is in a good push off, overall weight is not the factor. It's hard for 300 lbs plus to bottom them out, while everybody uses about the same amount of travel. The resistance curve goes from the area where everybody has movement to an almost vertical climb, where the stops take over. Good race car suspension. The parts still flex some after the springs and stops. About the same as an ice blade and it's holder.

The whole suspension system did not exist prior to the patents. The progressive elastomer suspension patent I filed a year ago, turned into three, with one immediate and two more on the way. All new territory. The spring tech will improve for everyone when I start getting them made by Labeda or Rink Rat, with their own patented urethane formulae. There will be smaller, less resistance springs for the Jr and smaller chassis when they are made.

[vinceyuen 0]

There will be smaller, less resistance springs for the Jr and smaller chassis when they are made.

Will the Jr. size chassis still be able to utilize 76mm wheels? Also, would it be possible to swap out the "less resistance springs" for the normal ones you provide now? (for adults with small feet)

Thanks in advance!

[wetwilly17 6]

The suspension is progressive, so the further they are compressed the harder they resist. When you consider how much force there is in a good push off, overall weight is not the factor. It's hard for 300 lbs plus to bottom them out, while everybody uses about the same amount of travel. The resistance curve goes from the area where everybody has movement to an almost vertical climb, where the stops take over. Good race car suspension. The parts still flex some after the springs and stops. About the same as an ice blade and it's holder.

The whole suspension system did not exist prior to the patents. The progressive elastomer suspension patent I filed a year ago, turned into three, with one immediate and two more on the way. All new territory. The spring tech will improve for everyone when I start getting them made by Labeda or Rink Rat, with their own patented urethane formulae. There will be smaller, less resistance springs for the Jr and smaller chassis when they are made.

i see. so basically you are saying that the spring rate is progressive enough so that a heavy player will compress the suspension only slightly more than a light player. thanks for the explanation.

[itstime2 0]

Just got these done. Love the sprung chassis, i will never go back! A7 chassis.

Easton Synergy 800c, Bones Swiss Labyrinth, Rink Rat Hornets XX.

[twolinepass 0]

I hope I can pick up a pair of boots at the Sharks sale and finally join this crew.

[Wings In 4 0]

hello all.

So i took not one but two shots on the inside of my chassis last night and after months of bending and torquing them to keep the wheels rolling free, i'm over it. decided to check out the sprungs mostly because they look fancy. heard great things. so a few questions.

I live in san diego. is there a place i can go to buy these or do i need to order online? if i can pick them up and pay in person, can they be mounted at the same time? will the A6 fit a 9.5 mission 9500 boot? (i believe its about $50 cheaper than the A7 is the only reason i ask).

is there a number i can call to arrange purchase and pickup? My email is tjmclaug91@gmail.com if sprungster or anyone else with infor for that matter would like to get ahold of me directly. the email will be sent to my phone immediately.

thank you all in advance for your help. i am hoping to have them ready to rock by tuesday next week.

-Tyler

[Sprungster 5]

hello all.

So i took not one but two shots on the inside of my chassis last night and after months of bending and torquing them to keep the wheels rolling free, i'm over it. decided to check out the sprungs mostly because they look fancy. heard great things. so a few questions.

I live in san diego. is there a place i can go to buy these or do i need to order online? if i can pick them up and pay in person, can they be mounted at the same time? will the A6 fit a 9.5 mission 9500 boot? (i believe its about $50 cheaper than the A7 is the only reason i ask).

is there a number i can call to arrange purchase and pickup? My email is tjmclaug91@gmail.com if sprungster or anyone else with infor for that matter would like to get ahold of me directly. the email will be sent to my phone immediately.

thank you all in advance for your help. i am hoping to have them ready to rock by tuesday next week

-Tyler

The prices are wrong on sprunghockey.com and they do not have stock. You can try some at Skate San Diego, and they can mount them for you. You need A7s for your 9.5s. The A6s are the same price as the A7s and A8s, which is $135.00. You can get them online at http://www.sprung-inline.com

[Wings In 4 0]

anyone have a set of A7's they want to sell me? i'd be willing to pay handsomely. i'd love to have a set of these but i need all new wheels and bearings as well so i'm looking at $200 on my $200 mission 9500's. i'm sure they are worth the money but i just don't have the bankroll right now.

[Sprungster 5]

anyone have a set of A7's they want to sell me? i'd be willing to pay handsomely. i'd love to have a set of these but i need all new wheels and bearings as well so i'm looking at $200 on my $200 mission 9500's. i'm sure they are worth the money but i just don't have the bankroll right now.

There aren't enough to go around, already. We are selling out of everything, faster than we can get them here, and we have to make more immediately. When we finish our next run, they will be sold by one of the big online stores and we'll stop selling online. We'll still handle all of the customer service, including the AX arm updates, and wholesale. ;)

[althoma1 575]

Sprungster Posted Today, 02:19 PM

QUOTE (Wings In 4 @ May 20 2010, 06:04 PM)

anyone have a set of A7's they want to sell me? i'd be willing to pay handsomely. i'd love to have a set of these but i need all new wheels and bearings as well so i'm looking at $200 on my $200 mission 9500's. i'm sure they are worth the money but i just don't have the bankroll right now.

There aren't enough to go around, already. We are selling out of everything, faster than we can get them here, and we have to make more immediately. When we finish our next run, they will be sold by one of the big online stores and we'll stop selling online. We'll still handle all of the customer service, including the AX arm updates, and wholesale.

I'm hoping you're still going to sell AX arm packages to current A6 owners (ones who purchased a while back and don't qualify for the free upgrade). I know you mention AX arm updates, but I'm not sure if that means the free updates to people who have recently or will recently purchase the A6 or all AX arm updates. I'm hoping it's the later because most of the big online retailers aren't exactly the best for getting things shipped outside of the US. For example, Hockeygiant uses Fedex which leads to crazy brokerage fees for people in Canada like me whereas you're kind enough to ship via USPS.

Speaking of the AX upgrade packages, any ETA? I'm hoping to grab a couple sets ASAP, plus a spare arm or two for good measure. If there's a waiting list, where do I sign up?

[Wings In 4 0]

soooooo i won $200 at the casino last night. IE, i'm getting sprung A7s.

anyone know what time skateSD is open today and tomorrow (sat/sun) and if there will be someone there to mount the frames? I called a few minutes ago, no answer. I think their open skating starts today at 1:30 or so.

I'm 5'11 185lbs and play on porous outdoor concrete (4S ranch community center in San Diego). Any suggestions for wheel durometer/set up? (ie different ratings in front and rear positions as opposed to the middle). I usually skate with a little softer wheel in the rear...

thanks for all your help so far guys (esp. Keith!)

[go redwings 0]

My new 9ks with sprungs.

9k 1

9K 2

9K 3

[iceburg19 1]

Keith , when can we start ordering the AX6 rocker arms

[Sprungster 5]

Keith , when can we start ordering the AX6 rocker arms

Yo Berg, you can start to order them anytime, but it won't make it any faster. We're about out of A7 bodies and we have to make more of them and the A6X rocker arms. Waiting on some orders, so everything can get done once while I'm there. Meanwhile, I have a whole shipment of reg A6 arms that will fill the space till the next run. Can't do that with the A7 bodies.

[steelperformer 0]

I play roller out of ice-season three times a week. Two times in a Sportcenter on Sportcourt and one time Outdoor on concrete/asphalt. With the Outdoorskates (BAUER XXV) i have problems. The large toe rubs against the toe cap. I have a wider forefoot and a narrow heel and I am reading that the TOUR Skate will be a good choice for this kind of foot. I ordered them in a Onlineshop in the USA and the Skates came with Hum' er-Frames. I want to skate on Hum'ers a long time to compare them with the SPRUNGS, but here in Germany we can hardly get those.

Okay now i have played on them and the Tour-Shoe was very snug, but the Hum'er Chassis impressed me not so much. I remount them and mounted SPRUNGS. I am just a SPRUNG guy . :D

greetings from germany

frank

[phantomowner27 20]

Those carbons look great with the white sprungs.

[steelperformer 0]

Keith give me the advice that my mounting a bit to toeish is.

Yes, I tought it too after the mounting and setting the wheels. The reason for doing this was a rivet on the outsole of the Tour-boot. Never had a rivet by the other boots I’ve mounted SPRUNGS.

Okay, I am just following Keith’s instructions and remounted the SPRUNGS and dremeled all holes straight back on both boots and remount the SPRUNGS again. The rivet was no problem, the SPRUNG-Chassis was flexible enough to cover the rivet. :D

Her are they again:

Thanks for your help Keith.

greetings from germany

frank

[Roos2Roll 0]

Roos, William J. Smith Sports Canada, kangaroo leather skates bought in a good shop in Minneapolis 1977. Converted to Sprung in June 2010 by Kedjesport, Uppsala Sweden. They did a solid job for a reasonable price.

Been comfortable on ice-skates since I was about four. I don't yet fully agree that it feels about the same on wheels:-) No previous inline experience to compare to. Still have to practice stopping and reversing.

:UPDATE two months later:

After trying indoors in a very small gymansium I changed to 72mm indoor wheels. Keep progressing and it is fun.

Roos set on Flickr