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pick up hockey (shinny) pet peeves

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Sometimes guys will come in who want to work on stuff with their teammates, only to find that the level of play is a lot lower than they expected.

The pick up games I play in have an ever-changing average skill level. Some weeks if I came with my teammates we would be by far the best players out there, other weeks we are by far the worst. So I understand sometimes the teams get stacked without malicious intent, but we had a group of guys who were by far better than everyone else who would come down to make everyone else feel like crap. That's what I don't like.

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I really don't have a problem with good players stacking one line if what they're trying to do is just get on the ice with people who can complete a pass.

Of course, if their aim is to be pricks, that's a different matter; I just don't think that line-stacking at shinny is, in and of itself, an evil.

For some strange reason those are usually the same guys that skate 10 minute shifts and never pass to anyone that didn't come in their car. At least, that's how it is around here.

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^This. Is there a group of guys that can suck the fun out of pick up quicker than these types?

We had a fairly regular group going for awhile & it usually wound up with the skilled guys vs. beginners, but these guys weren't out to kick the shit out of the newbs. They were just there to have fun & still skated pretty hard, but I always felt like I had a chance to make a play. They slowed things down just enough that it was fun to chase them around & everyone had a good time, it was really improving my skating.

Unfortunately my work hours have changed & I don't get to skate with them anymore.

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Weirdly, Chadd, it's the exact opposite here. The talented guys who stack lines tack hard, quick shifts, and then end up stuck on the bench while ten other guys take turns shuffling around the ice for 5 minutes at a time.

The rare times I find myself at a skate with three goalies and get to spend ten minutes out of every thirty on the bench due to rotation, I've noticed that it's almost always the better players who complain about getting short-changed on icetime. On the other hand, almost to a man, they said they'd rather play half as much with four other guys who can move the puck than be out all the time with four pylons.

One of the better skates I used to enjoy ending up dissolving because of this very thing. The better players kept their shifts short and played together, and so ended up never playing. A few of them left, forcing their peers out onto the ice with people below their skill level. After a few weeks of seeing every play they tried to make get bobbled and being the only ones on the ice moving their feet, they all got tired of making end-to-end rushes and split up to other rinks.

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A pet peeve I developed last night is when the guy you're switching with (10 players per bench) is too tired to skate, so he literally floats between blue lines. Even if the puck comes at him he'll take one step and lunge with his stick. Seriously dude? I know you paid your money too, but you're doing absolutely nothing. If all you're going to do is stand around for 4 minutes, let me out there or atleast shorten your shift up.

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Played drop in yesterday morning, and my roommate, who played a little roller hockey here and there but barely skated and can barely skate now, suited up and joined my other roomate for the first time. He didn't do well, obviously, shuffling around a lot, and because he's not confident stopping he would coast inside the blue lines. To his credit, he wasn't afraid to try and handle the puck, sending two good passes and getting to take two shots on goal towards the end. As expected, most of the guys let him have the puck and didn't attack him defensively, giving him some time to make the pass the few times he had a puck. Guys on the bench started giving him pointers and advice.

But of course, there's always one. Some guy who thought he was hot stuff (I counted at least 7 backhanded sauce passes, absolutely none of which did anything for the pass reciever other than make him chase the puck.) Early on, he charges through the neutral zone, and the new guy tries to poke check him. Well, he toe drags him and roars by, and the new guy get caught leaning, ends up spinning around and nearly falling. Obviously, thats not an issue, he's just getting past the defender. What I had a problem with was that hotshot started to seek out the new guy, intentionally carrying the puck over to where he was so he could "dangle" him at least four more times.

Where is the thrill in deking a guy out of his skates when he can barely skate to begin with? Literally, it's like toe dragging a traffic cone! :o

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Adding this... Guys who go completely offside and when both benches yell "Offside!" they keep skating and take a shot even though both teams had stopped playing, waiting for him to come back over the blue line.

I had the opposite experience the other day. In our weekly pickups, most of us play offsides where we give up the puck to the other team if we're off. We had been getting worked all morning and I was near the end of my shift, but I saw a potential 2-on-1 develop, so I skated hard out of our zone to try to catch up to my teammate. As he crossed into the offensive zone, he passed from the far boards to me. I knew it was close, and before the puck was halfway to me, the guys on the other bench were yelling, "Off! OFF!" so I gave up the puck as soon as it reached me.

As I skated back, the same guys started yelling, "It wasn't off! Why'd you give up the puck?!?"

My only weak recourse was to yell back, "Well do us a favor and don't call it next time!"

In a pickup where we play the same guys weekly, and the teams happened to be lopsided that day, it really pissed my off to skate my tail off yet not end up with a scoring chance because someone thought it would be funny to yell offsides.

I've noticed that it's almost always the better players who complain about getting short-changed on icetime.

Recently, we had a full bench and I noticed one player particularly being a culprit for long shifts. It finally struck me that, because he was so new (and a little out of shape), he couldn't skate hard enough to tire out quickly. As he result, he was out for close to five minutes at a time.

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Friday night drop in at mt. clemens. About six guys on each bench. Guy sitting next to me kept bumping into me when there would be a change. He would slide right against me and somehow he kept his shifts right with mine so this happened about 4 shifts in a row. So now im a little pissed and told the guy if he wanted to keep bumping into me then buy me dinner or something first. Its not like there wasnt room on the bench. He left after the next shift. O and by the way he was wearing a orange jersey.

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Please spit your dip somewhere other than my feet or the bench that I have to sit on. Ph BTW bring your own frickin water bottle, who drinks out of a strangers bottle anyway? Love coming back to the bench to find my bottle half full and sitting on the ground in the spit

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Ph BTW bring your own frickin water bottle, who drinks out of a strangers bottle anyway? Love coming back to the bench to find my bottle half full and sitting on the ground in the spit

I fill my bottle with a mix of green Gatorade & a couple tablespoons of honey. It only takes a few games before the water thieves know to not drink out of the red bottle. :lol:

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I fill my bottle with a mix of green Gatorade & a couple tablespoons of honey. It only takes a few games before the water thieves know to not drink out of the red bottle. :lol:

Do you even drink out of that bottle?

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I have a translucent straw bottle that I use. Besides allowing me to drink easily with a cage on, it makes thieves think twice about drinking out of something my mouth has obliviously been on, and the fact that it's translucent let's people see that it's Gatorade (half strength actually, and from powder so it's not as expensive as people think it is), and the fact that it's something that costs money makes them think twice as well.

Yeah, the occasional person still steals a sip or two, but it's pretty rare.

Oh, and sometimes I throw a cup of tea in there for the energy value. I like the taste well enough, but I don't think most people who take a sip on those days will be taking another one.

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Friday night drop in at mt. clemens. About six guys on each bench. Guy sitting next to me kept bumping into me when there would be a change. He would slide right against me and somehow he kept his shifts right with mine so this happened about 4 shifts in a row. So now im a little pissed and told the guy if he wanted to keep bumping into me then buy me dinner or something first. Its not like there wasnt room on the bench. He left after the next shift. O and by the way he was wearing a orange jersey.

When I play drop in I'll slide down the bench so I'm right next to the guy in front of me for two reasons:

1. Give those coming off the ice ample room to get over the boards and sit down.

2. Make sure no one jumps in front of me in line.

Does that make me gay too?

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I have a translucent straw bottle that I use. Besides allowing me to drink easily with a cage on, it makes thieves think twice about drinking out of something my mouth has obliviously been on, and the fact that it's translucent let's people see that it's Gatorade (half strength actually, and from powder so it's not as expensive as people think it is), and the fact that it's something that costs money makes them think twice as well.

Yeah, the occasional person still steals a sip or two, but it's pretty rare.

Oh, and sometimes I throw a cup of tea in there for the energy value. I like the taste well enough, but I don't think most people who take a sip on those days will be taking another one.

You guys could write H1N1 or FLU with sharpie all over your bottles....:P

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When I play drop in I'll slide down the bench so I'm right next to the guy in front of me for two reasons:

1. Give those coming off the ice ample room to get over the boards and sit down.

2. Make sure no one jumps in front of me in line.

Does that make me gay too?

No but I can see where the OP would have a problem. With 6 guys are you really worried about lack of ice time or losing your spot in line? It's nothing to do with being gay, it has to do with being comfortable and realizing he didn't need to sit on the guys lap, but could have easily been 6 or so inches away.

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There is this guy "Knob" who has been going to shinny at the same rink for years, not a great player, but who cares, he does however annoy everyone with how serious he takes shinny.

"lets go guys, pick it up, can't believe we are losing, what kinda pass was that" and so on, no league so he takes shinny seriously.

So Knob gets on his teammates about the time of the shift (3 min max is recommended), a long shifter says "thanks coach", next shift he takes another long shift, Knob yells at him again, the guy tells him to shut up, and gives him a push, just a push, ends there.

Next week in line to pay, Knob doesn't stop going on about the shifts, so the guy tells him to shut up again, they get face to face and he gives Knob another push, Knob goes down like he was shot. Yells he is calling the cops.

Knob didn't play in the Shinny. Session ends, we walk out of the dressing room and there is 6 police officers waiting to arrest the long shifter and his friend(for no apparent reason that I saw)

Turns out Knob is a lawyer and has threatened to charge a number of guys for on ice confrontation. I get he shoved him to the ground, not on the ice, and it is technically assault, but this was ridiculous.

Can't wait to go to shinny, Knob is so blacklisted from passes from every guy I know there and he will be chirped like crazy. I hope it was worth it to him.

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As a goalie, this really torques me off, puck is shot over the glass and hits protective netting and bounces out in front of net. Then some DB taps it in. It's one thing to keep play moving if the puck does same thing in the corner, but not when it drops in front of the net, no way a goalie can play that.

Also, when a goalie covers a puck, you don't dig at it and/or the goalie till it breaks free. A goalie needs a ref to either blow the play dead or not, so he knows if he has it or if it's still loose. During shinny, when there isn't a ref, if a goalie has it partially covered, you don't go digging for it. During a game a goalie knows it's loose because the ref hasn't blown play dead. During shinny, you have to cut the goalie some slack here.

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As a goalie, this really torques me off, puck is shot over the glass and hits protective netting and bounces out in front of net. Then some DB taps it in. It's one thing to keep play moving if the puck does same thing in the corner, but not when it drops in front of the net, no way a goalie can play that.

Also, when a goalie covers a puck, you don't dig at it and/or the goalie till it breaks free. A goalie needs a ref to either blow the play dead or not, so he knows if he has it or if it's still loose. During shinny, when there isn't a ref, if a goalie has it partially covered, you don't go digging for it. During a game a goalie knows it's loose because the ref hasn't blown play dead. During shinny, you have to cut the goalie some slack here.

Personally with me I know that if there is a shot take and I am in front I will turn to the net for a rebound but under no circumstances will I hack at the goalie because I know what that feels like because I use to play goalie.... IF I am in front and the opposing team trys to hack at the goalie even though it is shinny I will move that guy away from the net. and if he starts anything I will put him on its ass

Played drop in yesterday morning, and my roommate, who played a little roller hockey here and there but barely skated and can barely skate now, suited up and joined my other roomate for the first time. He didn't do well, obviously, shuffling around a lot, and because he's not confident stopping he would coast inside the blue lines. To his credit, he wasn't afraid to try and handle the puck, sending two good passes and getting to take two shots on goal towards the end. As expected, most of the guys let him have the puck and didn't attack him defensively, giving him some time to make the pass the few times he had a puck. Guys on the bench started giving him pointers and advice.

But of course, there's always one. Some guy who thought he was hot stuff (I counted at least 7 backhanded sauce passes, absolutely none of which did anything for the pass reciever other than make him chase the puck.) Early on, he charges through the neutral zone, and the new guy tries to poke check him. Well, he toe drags him and roars by, and the new guy get caught leaning, ends up spinning around and nearly falling. Obviously, thats not an issue, he's just getting past the defender. What I had a problem with was that hotshot started to seek out the new guy, intentionally carrying the puck over to where he was so he could "dangle" him at least four more times.

Where is the thrill in deking a guy out of his skates when he can barely skate to begin with? Literally, it's like toe dragging a traffic cone! :o

I am the type of person that loves to dangle ppl. but only when they are my same level. the only time I do dangle or skate faster then everyone is to set up one of the less skilled teammates for a good play or a goal other then that it is alot of gap control to keep the puck to pass to teammates

Last night we had a guy running around hitting people, and not all safe/clean hits. Someone said something to the guy and he went off on one of these "Oh, I thought this was hockey! Blah Blah Blah" Rants. We tried to explain to him that he wasn't "just playing the body" and that it was open hockey anyway, but the guy didn't get it. If contact comes up, fine, but don't go looking for hits.

There was a guy like that at one of the pick ups I had gone to. now I am under age but I thought it was just pick up so I didn't wear the shoulder pads I normally do for full contact play. and I was cutting to the net and this guy couldn't skate so all that he did was cross check me. and when I said I didn't know we were playing dirty he told me to stfu and it was hockey. this guy was like 30 and he knew I was a miner. so after that shift I went to the locker room and changed my shoulder pads and the next shift he happened to get the puck with his head down. and the next part was hilarious I laid him out. and he tries to hack at my legs while he is on the ground (I have been playing hockey for awhile so it didn't phase me) then he gets up and tries to hit me on the next play where I have the puck so I stopped really quickly and put my should back into him.... and well he never tried to hit me or anyone else that he knew I was good friends with again.

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I fill my bottle with a mix of green Gatorade & a couple tablespoons of honey. It only takes a few games before the water thieves know to not drink out of the red bottle. laugh.gif
Do you even drink out of that bottle?

Yeah, it's not bad once you get used to it. I started doing it for mountain bike rides after reading about it on a bike racing board. Honey is apparently a slow burning, long lasting energy source. All I know is that I have more energy & endurance when I use it.

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Yeah, honey's an excellent energy source. I've heard of marathoners using it. I used to down a tbsp of honey before hockey games, got away from that recently though.

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Don't like that one guy that comes to pick up and notices everyone's new gear. Every week always has comments about what everyone is wearing, You know the type that eyes your sh*t and asks you how much you paid.

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Don't like that one guy that comes to pick up and notices everyone's new gear. Every week always has comments about what everyone is wearing, You know the type that eyes your sh*t and asks you how much you paid.

I am that guy, all though I don't ask how much it costs.

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