MThockeydad 469 Report post Posted July 8, 2015 My guess is it's 10': http://stepskates.com/blades/step-steel/ Neutral, long, 10 foot profile means a perfect foundation for custom profiling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
isk8byu 4 Report post Posted November 25, 2015 I just ordered a set of Step runners for my Graf 705's. First time with Step runners and I wondering if I can just stick with the stock 10' neutral profile or do they always need to be reworked before using? My current runners were a 13' neutral done almost 15 years ago. I am tempted by all the new profile options to use something other than stock 10', but at the end of the day, its more money and I'm not sure I would really benefit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted November 26, 2015 I just ordered a set of Step runners for my Graf 705's. First time with Step runners and I wondering if I can just stick with the stock 10' neutral profile or do they always need to be reworked before using? My current runners were a 13' neutral done almost 15 years ago. I am tempted by all the new profile options to use something other than stock 10', but at the end of the day, its more money and I'm not sure I would really benefit.I just put new STEP xl runners on a pair of Vapors. I left the stock profile and did not shave the heel or toe. Have skated on them about 5 times and found them easy to adjust to. One strange thing is that the 3rd game I wore them, I took out the Superfeet and used the stock insole. I caught my heel 3 times when pivoting and went down, (I am an excellent skater, so my mates had a good laugh at my expense). Put the Superfeet back in and problem gone. I could seamlessly switch the insoles back and forth with the old LS2 runners. I plan to sell the runners since I've got new skates with Edge holders, but if I were planning to keep the STEP, I would shave the heel down a bit, (not a lot). I will say that the quality of steel is phenomenal and I could actually feel the difference. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MThockeydad 469 Report post Posted November 26, 2015 I have both STEP and LS3 runners on my x7.0's. Both profiled to 8'/14' and medium forward by No Icing.The LS3 have a more pronounced heel and much more pronounced toe.I really don't notice much of a difference. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironslave 2 Report post Posted May 20, 2017 was wondering if anyone could help me, I am looking to remove my step steel from my CCM Speedblade 4.0 holder. I cannot for the life of me get the steel to come out. The original runners popped right out when I unscrewed the bolts and gave it a pull, but the Step fits so much more snug, it isn't moving at all :/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickz 107 Report post Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, ironslave said: was wondering if anyone could help me, I am looking to remove my step steel from my CCM Speedblade 4.0 holder. I cannot for the life of me get the steel to come out. The original runners popped right out when I unscrewed the bolts and gave it a pull, but the Step fits so much more snug, it isn't moving at all :/ Clamp the steel into a vice and then pull. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swede 49 Report post Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, ironslave said: was wondering if anyone could help me, I am looking to remove my step steel from my CCM Speedblade 4.0 holder. I cannot for the life of me get the steel to come out. The original runners popped right out when I unscrewed the bolts and gave it a pull, but the Step fits so much more snug, it isn't moving at all :/ Remove the bolts and rinse the bottom of the holder in hot water (heatgun works aswell, but be careful to not melt the plastic) , then -gloves on and pull/wiggle the runner out 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironslave 2 Report post Posted May 20, 2017 thanks guys ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asgoodasdead 74 Report post Posted May 21, 2017 On November 25, 2015 at 3:30 PM, isk8byu said: I just ordered a set of Step runners for my Graf 705's. First time with Step runners and I wondering if I can just stick with the stock 10' neutral profile or do they always need to be reworked before using? My current runners were a 13' neutral done almost 15 years ago. I am tempted by all the new profile options to use something other than stock 10', but at the end of the day, its more money and I'm not sure I would really benefit. I'm running Step runners straight out of the box on my Graf 703s and there was no adjustment or issues. ran them with superfeet and now SpeedPlates. then again, I never had the stock steel profiled either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goonsquad 209 Report post Posted May 22, 2017 On 5/20/2017 at 3:00 AM, mickz said: Clamp the steel into a vice and then pull. (please make sure there is wood or some other sacrificial material on either side of the blade when doing it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goonsquad 209 Report post Posted May 22, 2017 Definitely a better solution On 5/20/2017 at 3:01 AM, swede said: Remove the bolts and rinse the bottom of the holder in hot water (heatgun works aswell, but be careful to not melt the plastic) , then -gloves on and pull/wiggle the runner out 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted May 22, 2017 On 5/20/2017 at 3:00 AM, mickz said: Clamp the steel into a vice and then pull. No need to pull. Clamp it (wrap a towel around the steel) then slap the back of the skate forward. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandonthequick 13 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 Does anyone have a link of the leather they use to hone? I don't know how to do it or what type to use. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2093 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, brandonthequick said: Does anyone have a link of the leather they use to hone? I don't know how to do it or what type to use. Thanks! You could really use just about anything, but here's a good option: http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?p=33000&cat=1,43072 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandonthequick 13 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said: You could really use just about anything, but here's a good option: http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?p=33000&cat=1,43072 You just rub it down like a stone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2093 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, brandonthequick said: You just rub it down like a stone? Basically yep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoot_the_goalie 281 Report post Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, brandonthequick said: Does anyone have a link of the leather they use to hone? I don't know how to do it or what type to use. Thanks! https://www.amazon.com/Tandy-Leather-Strop-Handle-3325-00/dp/B00888FAC4 Has a rough leather side and the other side is a smoother leather side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandonthequick 13 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 I'm going from ls3 to black step steel is the profile similar? Does anyone use step steel without profiling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 They're both 10' but Stem is a bit more game-ready in relation to the heels and toes. If you skated all this time on LS3 unprofiled, Step would be an upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandonthequick 13 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 Does anyone skate with them unprofiled or does everyone get them profiled for the most part P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
218hockey 50 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, JR Boucicaut said: They're both 10' but Stem is a bit more game-ready in relation to the heels and toes. If you skated all this time on LS3 unprofiled, Step would be an upgrade. I thought that you should have LS3 profiled before use. Just what I had always heard because of the toe shape. Maybe LS4 is closer to Step out of the box? Edited June 30, 2018 by 218hockey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vet88 674 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 8 hours ago, brandonthequick said: Does anyone skate with them unprofiled or does everyone get them profiled for the most part P There are a lot of sharpeners who will tell you that stock factory steel isn't well known for its accuracy so a profile brings it to true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 22 hours ago, 218hockey said: I thought that you should have LS3 profiled before use. Just what I had always heard because of the toe shape. Maybe LS4 is closer to Step out of the box? The point I was trying to make was exactly that. If he was able to skate on LS3 unprofiled this entire time, Step should feel better because it's shaped better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick9 892 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 11:47 PM, brandonthequick said: I'm going from ls3 to black step steel is the profile similar? Does anyone use step steel without profiling? Yes. I have Step and I did not profile them. They are, like JR said, a bit more game ready. The LS3 I used in the past had to be profiled. I just could not make them work without it. Way too much material at the toe. LS4 is workable but not optimal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthStar 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 Are you step blacksteel users able to go longer between sharpening versus regular step steel ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
