flip12 699 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 ...I also noticed a "big difference" in wall thickness compared to my Mako II(which seems close to standard across the board)...turned out to be about 0.32mm thinner. I notice stuff like that *shrug*Edit: The difference in weight of that same Mako II(with same pattern as QR1), is only a 31 gram difference at the same length plus tape/wax...something worth noting but I don't think you'd be able to tell on the ice.How much does the tape/wax weigh? It sounds like the Mako II is almost the same if you correct for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markush 12 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 Except, that weight has been done before. Not trying to rain on that parade, just don't want people thinking that this weight class stick is new. In fact, its almost 10 years ago that the first stick came out at this weight class. It also had a hell of a release.ZachSure, there have been lighter sticks around but sacrificing feeling & durability for the sake didn't turn out to be working well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEATHTRON 19 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 I didn't see too many people commenting on the original stealth and before that, the xn10, had poor durability and feeling. I think we would be best served seeing the reviews roll in on how durable the QR1's are. Thinner shaft walls has me thinking that they very well might break easier.Zach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted June 17, 2014 How much does the tape/wax weigh? It sounds like the Mako II is almost the same if you correct for that.About 25 grams. The weight difference is fully dressed. The Warrior is slightly more blade heavy(though it isn't what I'd call blade heavy).In regards to the weight class...all the "395 gram" 05 Stealth I have had weighed more than 400 grams and came with a 3" plug that didn't account for weight....but this shouldn't all be about weight. I found the stick to live up to the claims of a quick release and it kicked hard. Puck feel; it wasn't one95 good but it was good, not "pingy." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 17, 2014 I didn't see too many people commenting on the original stealth and before that, the xn10, had poor durability and feeling. I think we would be best served seeing the reviews roll in on how durable the QR1's are. Thinner shaft walls has me thinking that they very well might break easier.ZachThe XN10 feel issue was with the first generation prepreg blades, those were terrible. Every manufacturer has a better feeling blade at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chanxebyshev 8 Report post Posted June 19, 2014 What is this w71 Pacioretty curve I see a photo of on the Warrior VIP page?looks lovely(direct to photo)http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqXN9NgCEAAY5wR.jpg http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t51.2885-15/10424623_1433453356921593_554142114_a.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joonas #6 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2014 I was wondering the same thing. Can't wait to see a better pic of the curve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted June 21, 2014 It's a huge hook - bigger than Coffey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Souldriver 64 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 What is this w71 Pacioretty curve I see a photo of on the Warrior VIP page?looks lovely(direct to photo)http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqXN9NgCEAAY5wR.jpg http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t51.2885-15/10424623_1433453356921593_554142114_a.jpg That top pic..... its just a good looking stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeWhy 39 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 dear god when is this coming out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcne0101 16 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 Whats with all the huge hooks now? They're slowly killing all the milder hooks one by one....have we given up on the backhand completely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 699 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 Can still get a good backhand off with a big hook, just not as easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 Can still get a good backhand off with a big hook, just not as easy.Most of the kids (and that is who drives sales) don't bother using a backhand. All they care about is being able to lift the puck to the top corner and it's easier to have equipment that does it for you than it is to work on your technique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 699 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 Most of the kids (and that is who drives sales) don't bother using a backhand. All they care about is being able to lift the puck to the top corner and it's easier to have equipment that does it for you than it is to work on your technique.True. I don't see a lot of youth hockey these days, so I forget about those trends for the most part. And I can't say I'd be able to release decent backhands without having worked with different patterns, including some pretty straight ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zjack38 46 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 My coach doesn't even want us to use our backhands, in fact he tells us not to. He says that if we clear the puck on our backhand, it won't get out of the zone and it'll end up in the back of our net, and if we try to shoot on our backhand, it won't be a good shot, an easy save for the goalie. I can't really argue against that either, almost no kid/teen had a good backhand. The only time I use my backhand is deking, and occasionally passing the puck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Souldriver 64 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 My coach doesn't even want us to use our backhands, in fact he tells us not to. He says that if we clear the puck on our backhand, it won't get out of the zone and it'll end up in the back of our net, and if we try to shoot on our backhand, it won't be a good shot, an easy save for the goalie.I can't really argue against that either, almost no kid/teen had a good backhand. The only time I use my backhand is deking, and occasionally passing the puck.Well maybe he should do some backhand drills with you guys instead of exasperating the issue. a good backhand can be a deadly tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeWhy 39 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 I agree, goalies I know say they hate the backhand because its such an unpredictable shot. I love mine most of the time tbh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 The job of a coach is to make his players better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 699 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 My coach doesn't even want us to use our backhands, in fact he tells us not to. He says that if we clear the puck on our backhand, it won't get out of the zone and it'll end up in the back of our net, and if we try to shoot on our backhand, it won't be a good shot, an easy save for the goalie.I can't really argue against that either, almost no kid/teen had a good backhand. The only time I use my backhand is deking, and occasionally passing the puck.If you can't clear the zone on a backhand or make a decent backhand pass under pressure, you're incredibly vulnerable to the other team's forecheck, especially if the notice the reluctance to use the backhand. Not saying clearing the zone is easy on a backhand, just that it's definitely a tool one should aim for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcne0101 16 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 My coach doesn't even want us to use our backhands, in fact he tells us not to. He says that if we clear the puck on our backhand, it won't get out of the zone and it'll end up in the back of our net, and if we try to shoot on our backhand, it won't be a good shot, an easy save for the goalie.I can't really argue against that either, almost no kid/teen had a good backhand. The only time I use my backhand is deking, and occasionally passing the puck.That Sidney Crosby guy is ineffective with his backhand!This is the frustrating part about youth hockey. Coaches only want to win and a lot of times they do it at the expense of their players' development. I could go on a long rant about this but I don't want to divert too much from the main topic which is the warrior qr.Regardless, its just super frustrating that all retail patterns are trending to huge hooks now. I don't blame the manufacturers, its what the markets have demanded...it's just silly that we're trending that way. There are a lot of players that use big curves very effectively, but there are also a lot of players that use very mild curves effectively. I'll get off my soapbox now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Roy 86 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 So...how about that Warrior QR1...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjpisat 36 Report post Posted June 24, 2014 How does it compare to the DT1 LT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommyj214 3 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 I would love to be sold on a warrior stick, but they just haven't won me over yet. i can't get past the feel, of which bauer has me hooked on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neo5370 132 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 That Sidney Crosby guy is ineffective with his backhand!This is the frustrating part about youth hockey. Coaches only want to win and a lot of times they do it at the expense of their players' development. I could go on a long rant about this but I don't want to divert too much from the main topic which is the warrior qr.Regardless, its just super frustrating that all retail patterns are trending to huge hooks now. I don't blame the manufacturers, its what the markets have demanded...it's just silly that we're trending that way. There are a lot of players that use big curves very effectively, but there are also a lot of players that use very mild curves effectively. I'll get off my soapbox now.As long companies keep making modano/forsberg clones, I'm happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amiroo39 121 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 I would love to be sold on a warrior stick, but they just haven't won me over yet. i can't get past the feel, of which bauer has me hooked on. which Warrior twigs have you tried out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
