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8 hours ago, nummer55 said:

What do you want to know? Limited availability, TF7 boots will come with Revision Alu chassis, Revision ABEC9 bearings and Revision Recoil wheels. TF9 boots will come with Revision Mag chassis (same as on customs), Revision Pro+ bearings and Revision Flex wheels. I didn’t search thoroughly, but at least found them on this French dealer website: https://www.france-proshop.com/roller-hockey. Pricing seems like a special introduction offer, but if thats what they will retail for it is incredible value for money.

900 dollars is incredible? If you bought the boots with promo and sold the holders and steel you could have paid 350 for the boots and mounted R1s for another 140+ mounting, so 550 mounted. Wheels and bearings at 200 total would put you at 750 US for a much better setup than the stock chassis and wheels. 

 

Anyway, I had a chance to try these on recently and I'm not going to keep them. Fit was fine, baked nicely and they're really comfortable. I was not a fan of the lower cut boot having injured my ankle in the past, but otherwise the skate is sick. Holders feel really nice and the comfort of the boot is unreal and the heel lock that I got was crazy. I want a huge fan of the thin TF9 tongue, but it could be swapped. The finish is amazing. For sizing, my right foot is a 9.5 and my left is a 9. Sometimes I can get a 9 to fit my right foot and other times not. I have had 9.25 pro stock returns which are ideal for me (not interested in custom ordering skates). I was not able to get the 9 to fit comfortably in this case, so I went with the 9.5r. I know lots of people like the low cut and I have tried on makos. I found these to be a bit more volume and a bit more room above the toes than mako 2.

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4 hours ago, OldCY said:

Going to get my TF7 baked this week. Do you need to wait 24 hrs before using them like a traditional skate it is the setting process shorter.

It's best to wait that long but throw them in the fridge for a couple hours and you'll be set

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1 hour ago, Miller55 said:

900 dollars is incredible? If you bought the boots with promo and sold the holders and steel you could have paid 350 for the boots and mounted R1s for another 140+ mounting, so 550 mounted. Wheels and bearings at 200 total would put you at 750 US for a much better setup than the stock chassis and wheels. 

 

Anyway, I had a chance to try these on recently and I'm not going to keep them. Fit was fine, baked nicely and they're really comfortable. I was not a fan of the lower cut boot having injured my ankle in the past, but otherwise the skate is sick. Holders feel really nice and the comfort of the boot is unreal and the heel lock that I got was crazy. I want a huge fan of the thin TF9 tongue, but it could be swapped. The finish is amazing. For sizing, my right foot is a 9.5 and my left is a 9. Sometimes I can get a 9 to fit my right foot and other times not. I have had 9.25 pro stock returns which are ideal for me (not interested in custom ordering skates). I was not able to get the 9 to fit comfortably in this case, so I went with the 9.5r. I know lots of people like the low cut and I have tried on makos. I found these to be a bit more volume and a bit more room above the toes than mako 2.

Are these that much more low cut than ccm or Bauer? They actually may be as ccm has increased the height of the skate at the ankles in the as1... Or thr ft2, I forget which one.  I had the as1 last year and didn't notice the height that much. Def noticed how less comfy they were though, and how painful taking any kind of luck off the boot was. 

Trues are created for optimal ankle flexion and knee bend so it's unfortunate you can't use them bc of your ankle issue. I even drop an eyelet on my trues. I've gone back and forth dropping and not dropping the top eyelet but I ways go back to dropping since it feels the most comfy for me. 

What about your ankle is wrong that you require a higher cut boot. 

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2 hours ago, Miller55 said:

900 dollars is incredible?

I looked at the TF7, which is priced at €350. You’re forgetting the included 20% French sales tax and the strong euro. Plus, I was comparing to other roller hockey brands. Anyway, this is the ice section and this is a random French website. Let’s wait until they are released.

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1 hour ago, Sniper9 said:

Are these that much more low cut than ccm or Bauer? They actually may be as ccm has increased the height of the skate at the ankles in the as1... Or thr ft2, I forget which one.  I had the as1 last year and didn't notice the height that much. Def noticed how less comfy they were though, and how painful taking any kind of luck off the boot was. 

Trues are created for optimal ankle flexion and knee bend so it's unfortunate you can't use them bc of your ankle issue. I even drop an eyelet on my trues. I've gone back and forth dropping and not dropping the top eyelet but I ways go back to dropping since it feels the most comfy for me. 

What about your ankle is wrong that you require a higher cut boot. 

I definitely felt like they were less supportive than my 2s pros around the ankle. At the end of the day everything comes with a price and the Supremes, which are better for my lower ankle injury are probably awful for high ankle sprains so obviously nothing is perfect. Before this injury I would have loved the True cut as I definitely like the ankle flexion.

I played once in skates that were too narrow in the heel so I didn't tie them tight and ended up rolling an ankle in them, basically rolled my foot out and landed with my foot under my butt. Crunched the bones on the top of my foot where the ankle tendons connect. ( Obviously as these things go it was the last play and the frames were slightly too short for the boot, plus I had shredded the rear wheel and so I had basically nothing behind me, leaned back expecting to have some wheel there, feet came out from under me, tried to catch myself and went down on my foot). In my Bauer's I feel pretty good, although they're not the most comfortable skate ever, but in the Trues I just felt like that area on the top of my foot and ankle was not as sturdy. It's not because if the fit as the slate for me fairly well, so I'm guessing it was the low cut, but either way it just made me a bit nervous.

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1 hour ago, nummer55 said:

I looked at the TF7, which is priced at €350. You’re forgetting the included 20% French sales tax and the strong euro. Plus, I was comparing to other roller hockey brands. Anyway, this is the ice section and this is a random French website. Let’s wait until they are released.

I hear. Yeah the tf7 is ok. Not sure about revision frames but I hate their wheels. Anyway, back to topic

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8 hours ago, OldCY said:

Going to get my TF7 baked this week. Do you need to wait 24 hrs before using them like a traditional skate it is the setting process shorter.

3-4 hours wait time. 

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I finally got around to baking my Tf9 yesterday at home in my non-convection gas oven according to the instructions. The results weren't great. I put them in for 6 minutes at 175 degrees (just in case my oven is too hot) and when I took them out, they weren't that malleable so I put them in for in an addition 3 minutes at 180 degrees.This time they were a little better but not much. I put them on anyway and wrapped them with an ace bandage and clear wrap like the videos but it didn't seem to mold much better than my old CCMs. The lace holes didn't really wrap so I took a heat gun to it and got it to wrap a bit more. 

The skates aren't that difficult to take off and only feel slightly better than prebake so I'm guessing they didn't form to my foot very much and a second bake is needed. Should I increase the temperature or leave them in longer? I was already pushing 10 minutes so that makes me nervous. And how should the skates fee when they reach optimum heat level? 

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5 minutes ago, calixguy18 said:

I finally got around to baking my Tf9 yesterday at home in my non-convection gas oven according to the instructions. The results weren't great. I put them in for 6 minutes at 175 degrees (just in case my oven is too hot) and when I took them out, they weren't that malleable so I put them in for in an addition 3 minutes at 180 degrees.This time they were a little better but not much. I put them on anyway and wrapped them with an ace bandage and clear wrap like the videos but it didn't seem to mold much better than my old CCMs. The lace holes didn't really wrap so I took a heat gun to it and got it to wrap a bit more. 

The skates aren't that difficult to take off and only feel slightly better than prebake so I'm guessing they didn't form to my foot very much and a second bake is needed. Should I increase the temperature or leave them in longer? I was already pushing 10 minutes so that makes me nervous. And how should the skates fee when they reach optimum heat level? 

Go have them done in a professional skate oven.  You paid way too much for those things to not pay the $25 a pro shop will charge you to bake them!   Also, you need to use a convection oven.  The air circulation helps get the temperature the same inside and out. 

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4 hours ago, puckstopper said:

Go have them done in a professional skate oven.  You paid way too much for those things to not pay the $25 a pro shop will charge you to bake them!   Also, you need to use a convection oven.  The air circulation helps get the temperature the same inside and out. 

Good point. I just don't trust them to know anything about True skates or the wrap.

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4 hours ago, calixguy18 said:

I finally got around to baking my Tf9 yesterday at home in my non-convection gas oven according to the instructions. The results weren't great. I put them in for 6 minutes at 175 degrees (just in case my oven is too hot) and when I took them out, they weren't that malleable so I put them in for in an addition 3 minutes at 180 degrees.This time they were a little better but not much. I put them on anyway and wrapped them with an ace bandage and clear wrap like the videos but it didn't seem to mold much better than my old CCMs. The lace holes didn't really wrap so I took a heat gun to it and got it to wrap a bit more. 

The skates aren't that difficult to take off and only feel slightly better than prebake so I'm guessing they didn't form to my foot very much and a second bake is needed. Should I increase the temperature or leave them in longer? I was already pushing 10 minutes so that makes me nervous. And how should the skates fee when they reach optimum heat level? 

In the instructions supplied with the original VH skates, it was 200F in a convection oven for 8-10 minutes, or 180F in a conventional oven for 15-20 minutes (or until soft). In fact at that time they also recommended watching the following video. But this was pre-2016 before True acquired VH, so use this info at your own risk.

 

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I want to give the True's a shot but would like some feedback on size before I order online so I don't have to tie up a ton of funds.

I was in a Supreme 8.5D but my right heel wasn't fully locked, length was fine, and they felt a little too narrow- right foot would be tingly/numb at the end of a game. Went to a nearby shop and had my feet scanned with a Bauer scanner. Unfortunately I don't remember the numerics but I know that 8.5 was good for length and my left foot is a D width while my right was creeping up to an E. I tried on a bunch of skates before buying a pair of CCM 78k in 9D, which felt fine post bake at the store but after skating a game I don't think the fit is right.  They're definitely longer, despite the foot bed being the same size as my Bauer's, and when I tried the 8.5D in the 78k my toes were jammed in- not painful just a little bunched which in hindsight may have been alleviated after baking. The heel slip issue is gone in the CCM's but the discomfort in my right foot is still there albeit not as bad, and I had some weird lace bite/ankle pressure issue where the 2nd and 3rd eyelet from the top of the skate are located on my foot.

I've seen mixed responses regarding the length on True's, where it seems Bauer is the same while CCM is down a half size. I'm also not sure if I should go R or W since I don't quite push into an EE; using the trace method my length/width ratios are 2.55 for left and 2.45 for right. I was thinking of ordering an 8R and 8.5R to try since IW doesn't have any 8W available right now. Thanks in advance!

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28 minutes ago, DropGloveMurphy said:

I want to give the True's a shot but would like some feedback on size before I order online so I don't have to tie up a ton of funds.

I was in a Supreme 8.5D but my right heel wasn't fully locked, length was fine, and they felt a little too narrow- right foot would be tingly/numb at the end of a game. Went to a nearby shop and had my feet scanned with a Bauer scanner. Unfortunately I don't remember the numerics but I know that 8.5 was good for length and my left foot is a D width while my right was creeping up to an E. I tried on a bunch of skates before buying a pair of CCM 78k in 9D, which felt fine post bake at the store but after skating a game I don't think the fit is right.  They're definitely longer, despite the foot bed being the same size as my Bauer's, and when I tried the 8.5D in the 78k my toes were jammed in- not painful just a little bunched which in hindsight may have been alleviated after baking. The heel slip issue is gone in the CCM's but the discomfort in my right foot is still there albeit not as bad, and I had some weird lace bite/ankle pressure issue where the 2nd and 3rd eyelet from the top of the skate are located on my foot.

I've seen mixed responses regarding the length on True's, where it seems Bauer is the same while CCM is down a half size. I'm also not sure if I should go R or W since I don't quite push into an EE; using the trace method my length/width ratios are 2.55 for left and 2.45 for right. I was thinking of ordering an 8R and 8.5R to try since IW doesn't have any 8W available right now. Thanks in advance!

Unless you have an extremly wide foot I would go with a regular width TRUE skate.

I am a genuine E width foot and the regular width TRUE skate fits nicely. The wide was a bit too much width and volume. 

Most people have gone down half size in TRUE skates vs Bauer and CCM, thus if you are wearing a 8.5 you might want to consider a size 8.

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3 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:

Unless you have an extremly wide foot I would go with a regular width TRUE skate.

I am a genuine E width foot and the regular width TRUE skate fits nicely. The wide was a bit too much width and volume. 

Most people have gone down half size in TRUE skates vs Bauer and CCM, thus if you are wearing a 8.5 you might want to consider a size 8.

+1 for going down a half size in True vs Bauer or CCM.

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17 hours ago, Larry54 said:

In the instructions supplied with the original VH skates, it was 200F in a convection oven for 8-10 minutes, or 180F in a conventional oven for 15-20 minutes (or until soft). In fact at that time they also recommended watching the following video. But this was pre-2016 before True acquired VH, so use this info at your own risk.

 

Thanks for the video. Crazy how pliable the skates became. They probably changed their formula because the included instructions say to put it in a home oven for 6 minutes at 180 degrees. It doesn't specifically say convection oven for home.

2 hours ago, DropGloveMurphy said:

I want to give the True's a shot but would like some feedback on size before I order online so I don't have to tie up a ton of funds.

I was in a Supreme 8.5D but my right heel wasn't fully locked, length was fine, and they felt a little too narrow- right foot would be tingly/numb at the end of a game. Went to a nearby shop and had my feet scanned with a Bauer scanner. Unfortunately I don't remember the numerics but I know that 8.5 was good for length and my left foot is a D width while my right was creeping up to an E. I tried on a bunch of skates before buying a pair of CCM 78k in 9D, which felt fine post bake at the store but after skating a game I don't think the fit is right.  They're definitely longer, despite the foot bed being the same size as my Bauer's, and when I tried the 8.5D in the 78k my toes were jammed in- not painful just a little bunched which in hindsight may have been alleviated after baking. The heel slip issue is gone in the CCM's but the discomfort in my right foot is still there albeit not as bad, and I had some weird lace bite/ankle pressure issue where the 2nd and 3rd eyelet from the top of the skate are located on my foot.

I've seen mixed responses regarding the length on True's, where it seems Bauer is the same while CCM is down a half size. I'm also not sure if I should go R or W since I don't quite push into an EE; using the trace method my length/width ratios are 2.55 for left and 2.45 for right. I was thinking of ordering an 8R and 8.5R to try since IW doesn't have any 8W available right now. Thanks in advance!

I went from a 8.5 EE CCM to a 8.5 W True and probably could have gone down half a size. I just realized that when my arch collapses (flat feet, foot rolls inward), my big toe moves forward some. So when I stand, my feet fit fit the 8.5. When I take weight off, it could definitely go down to an 8. 

3 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:

I am a genuine E width foot and the regular width TRUE skate fits nicely. The wide was a bit too much width and volume. 

When going from a R to a W, do they just make it wider at the toebox or do they add volume as well (more than the inherit volume from being wider)? 

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So none of the pure hockey stores in my area stock the tf7 so I tried on the 9 and they fit great, can anyone confirm if the sizing and general fit would be the same in the 7? I usually don't like buying skates without trying on but if they fit the same then I'll buy the 7 online

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2 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

So tf7 is true to size for u?

I didn't bake the 7s, but they definitely felt more snug. I wear 9.5 Bauer Supreme D and I usually have to punch out the pinky toe are and forefoot, sometimes also the arch area. In the TF9s I could do 9 on my left (smaller) foot and 9.5 on my larger right foot. In the TF7s I needed a 9.5 even for my left foot, and the 9.5 TF7s were fine on my right as well. If I would have kept them I would have punched a bit in the forefoot of the right, but that's basically it.

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On 9/3/2020 at 2:07 PM, SkateWorksPNW said:

I got my 7.0R, 7.0W, 7.5R, and 7.5W skates today. I measure the following in custom skates:

Right Foot
Width: 102 mm
Length: 266.3 mm

Left Foot
Width: 99.7 mm
Length: 261.9 mm

In the TF7 I wear a 7.5W and in the TF9 I wear a 7.0W. I could maybe fit the R width but it was a little tighter than I prefer and I figure once I start skating and my foot swells a little they would likely be uncomfortable. I assume the lower profile tongue of the TF9 allows me to fit into a slightly smaller skate. 

When I swapped the TF9 tongue into the TF7 in a size 7.0 it seems to fit fine. 

All of this testing was done with the skates unbaked and also baked. Baking them changes the fit dramatically. 

See the post above. This suggests to me that the TF7 and TF9 boots are the same shape and length, but the TF7 feels smaller due to the thicker tongue. 

6 hours ago, Miller55 said:

I didn't bake the 7s, but they definitely felt more snug. I wear 9.5 Bauer Supreme D and I usually have to punch out the pinky toe are and forefoot, sometimes also the arch area. In the TF9s I could do 9 on my left (smaller) foot and 9.5 on my larger right foot. In the TF7s I needed a 9.5 even for my left foot, and the 9.5 TF7s were fine on my right as well. If I would have kept them I would have punched a bit in the forefoot of the right, but that's basicall

 

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9 hours ago, kyleo29 said:

So none of the pure hockey stores in my area stock the tf7 so I tried on the 9 and they fit great, can anyone confirm if the sizing and general fit would be the same in the 7? I usually don't like buying skates without trying on but if they fit the same then I'll buy the 7 online

Pure is not going to stock or order the TF7, only the TF9. 

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17 hours ago, Miller55 said:

This should be for TF9 but not 7s ime

Correct, -0.5 size compared to CCM/Bauer for the TF9. Same size as CCM/Bauer in the TF7.

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On 9/16/2020 at 1:18 AM, kyleo29 said:

So none of the pure hockey stores in my area stock the tf7 so I tried on the 9 and they fit great, can anyone confirm if the sizing and general fit would be the same in the 7? I usually don't like buying skates without trying on but if they fit the same then I'll buy the 7 online

I’m 9 in Bauer and 8.5 in the TF7, even pre-bake. Try both your CCM/Bauer size and -0.5 in the TF7 if you can. I’m glad I did thanks to @Hillsawesome review! 

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Is the size difference only because of the low profile tongue on the tf9 though, or the build?  If it's just bc of the tongue I would stick with the same size as I would swap to the felt tongue. I like the felt tongue. Even changing how far the tongue goes into the toebox changes how far your toes goes forward. I assume bc the low profile is thinner it doesn't reduce the volume in the toebox as much causing the feeling of more length. 

I'd be interested to see if the physical length is actually different between the tf7 and tf9. I'd assume the footbeds are identical. 

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