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3 hours ago, jrchecker8 said:

Sorry to be confusing, I meant crammed. I will try and bring the tongue further out and also re-bake and wrap them and see if that makes a difference. I did pull the footbeds out of my old CCM skates and the TF9 and the ccm is slightly longer, but like hill said in his video, not long enough to make up that half an inch. Would some superfeet also help bring the foot back any?

Ccm is longer? Wasn't the trues longer? Everything I've read is the Trues 1/2 a size bigger not shorter than CCM and Bauer. 

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1 minute ago, Sniper9 said:

Ccm is longer? Wasn't the trues longer? Everything I've read is the Trues 1/2 a size bigger not shorter than CCM and Bauer. 

Yea the ccm footbed 8.5D was a little bit longer than the true 8.5R. Go to 4:23 in the video below. That is exactly how mine measure up too

 

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26 minutes ago, jrchecker8 said:

Yea the ccm footbed 8.5D was a little bit longer than the true 8.5R. Go to 4:23 in the video below. That is exactly how mine measure up too

 

What jetspeed skate did you have btw. 

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3 hours ago, jrchecker8 said:

Yea the ccm footbed 8.5D was a little bit longer than the true 8.5R. Go to 4:23 in the video below. That is exactly how mine measure up too

 

That was an 8R foot bed and an 8.5 EE CCM

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2 hours ago, jrchecker8 said:

The original ones, i think they came out in 2015

The original Jetspeed fits half a size larger than current gen CCM skates.  As such, if you were in an 8.5 Jetspeed you should be an 8.5 in True.

Also, for what it's worth, I did not have the same experience as Hills with needing to downsize between CCM and True.  I do technically have a 7.75D foot though, so if you're between sizes you may not have to size down from current gen CCM skates.

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47 minutes ago, boo10 said:

The original Jetspeed fits half a size larger than current gen CCM skates.  As such, if you were in an 8.5 Jetspeed you should be an 8.5 in True.

Also, for what it's worth, I did not have the same experience as Hills with needing to downsize between CCM and True.  I do technically have a 7.75D foot though, so if you're between sizes you may not have to size down from current gen CCM skates.

interesting thanks for the info. below are the true footbed on top of the ccm and also next to it. Also i took a look at the holders, the True has a 272 on it My CCM has has a 280. Could it possible that true put the wrong tongue on the 8.5R and these skates are actually an 8R? 

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I think I have this solved! I was checking around on the True boot (inside to be specific) looking to see if the put a size on the boot anywhere. I thought to myself no way they wouldnt put the size only on the tongue if the tongue is interchangeable. I unlaced both of the skates that have the 8.5 size on the tongue and under the footbed toward the toe cap there is a white sticker that has 8R for the right skate and 8L for the left skate even though the tongue of the skate says 8.5. So I grabbed the 9R True that I had ordered because i thought the 8.5 was too small and low and behold the 9R has 9L for the left skate and 9R for the right skate. I believe someone at the factory has put the wrong tongue on the wrong boot. I just hope that True will work with me now to get this issue solved.

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24 minutes ago, jrchecker8 said:

I think I have this solved! I was checking around on the True boot (inside to be specific) looking to see if the put a size on the boot anywhere. I thought to myself no way they wouldnt put the size only on the tongue if the tongue is interchangeable. I unlaced both of the skates that have the 8.5 size on the tongue and under the footbed toward the toe cap there is a white sticker that has 8R for the right skate and 8L for the left skate even though the tongue of the skate says 8.5. So I grabbed the 9R True that I had ordered because i thought the 8.5 was too small and low and behold the 9R has 9L for the left skate and 9R for the right skate. I believe someone at the factory has put the wrong tongue on the wrong boot. I just hope that True will work with me now to get this issue solved.

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Nice catch. So it means that 8.5 will probably be perfect for you. I don't think you'll have an issue taking care of that. Good luck.

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2 hours ago, jrchecker8 said:

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Lol that makes total sense now. But I'd be interested to see if half sizes actually are stamped in that area or if it's another code indicating it's a half size.... Maybe someone on her who got a half size can chime in with a picture of theirs. If this is true, glad it worked out. 

Are your footbeds size stamped with stickers? The customs had sizes on their footbeds. 

As for your jetspeeds, that's why I asked which version you have bc ad mentioned previously, your version jetspeeds aren't true to size. So your 8.5 fit more like 9 in CCM/Bauer now a days. 

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3 hours ago, boo10 said:

The original Jetspeed fits half a size larger than current gen CCM skates.  As such, if you were in an 8.5 Jetspeed you should be an 8.5 in True.

Also, for what it's worth, I did not have the same experience as Hills with needing to downsize between CCM and True.  I do technically have a 7.75D foot though, so if you're between sizes you may not have to size down from current gen CCM skates.

I'm a size 7 left and 6.5 right.  I might just stick with customs and forget about the guessing game with sizing since most shops don't stock these and mainly available online. Although sport chek does have returns in store for items purchased online. And phl has free return shipping. 

But who am I kidding. My current custom trues are only a year old and have years of life left. 

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12 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

I'm a size 7 left and 6.5 right.  I might just stick with customs and forget about the guessing game with sizing since most shops don't stock these and mainly available online. Although sport chek does have returns in store for items purchased online. And phl has free return shipping. 

But who am I kidding. My current custom trues are only a year old and have years of life left. 

Curious, why on earth would you buy these, or any other skate for that matter, if you have custom made skates? 

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16 hours ago, jrchecker8 said:

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Knowing True... I wouldn't be surprised if the half sizes are the same overall length as the full sizes but they add/remove padding to make up the difference. Isn't there a True rep on here that could answer that?

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1 hour ago, stick9 said:

Curious, why on earth would you buy these, or any other skate for that matter, if you have custom made skates? 

I have TRUE custom skates and a pair of TF9 skates too. They fit very close to one another and since I dont have any major foot issues I wanted to see just how well the TF9 fit as compared to the custom. I actually think the TF9 has a little more comfort since it has thicker padding in it compared to my customs, or the padding in my customs has worn down and compressed over time. 

I need at least 2 pairs of skates since I am on the ice so often. For example, Sunday I played in 3 games! It was nice to be able to swap between skates since none of the games were back-to-back. 

My only issue is I use a 271/272 holder and the standard size 7.0 skate comes with a 263 holder. Not a huge deal though since I took off the Shift holder and put on an LS Edge holder since I need something that works with Flare steel. 

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1 hour ago, Hills said:

Knowing True... I wouldn't be surprised if the half sizes are the same overall length as the full sizes but they add/remove padding to make up the difference. Isn't there a True rep on here that could answer that?

Hopefully they can chime in and answer. They don’t return phone calls or answer emails very quickly.

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1 hour ago, Hills said:

Knowing True... I wouldn't be surprised if the half sizes are the same overall length as the full sizes but they add/remove padding to make up the difference. Isn't there a True rep on here that could answer that?

Just checked and there is padding at the very end of the skate in the toe box. Waiting to hear from true before I remove anything

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4 hours ago, stick9 said:

Curious, why on earth would you buy these, or any other skate for that matter, if you have custom made skates? 

For my next pair. If I can save 500 on pretty much the same performance and comfort in skates, why not. 

3 hours ago, Hills said:

Knowing True... I wouldn't be surprised if the half sizes are the same overall length as the full sizes but they add/remove padding to make up the difference. Isn't there a True rep on here that could answer that?

You'd think 8.5 would be a 9 with toe plugs in the end cap to make it half a size smaller  though, not the other way around. 

1 hour ago, jrchecker8 said:

Just checked and there is padding at the very end of the skate in the toe box. Waiting to hear from true before I remove anything

The padding is likely just a thin strip so your toes aren't exposed directly to the carbon she'll and adds some padding. Im pretty sure you got a skate that, like you said, had the wrong tongue put on.  If I were you I'd return both skates and order another 8.5. The good news is it's not your mistake and the shop should honor the exchange. 

Reach out to them via Instagram or Facebook. The person who handles the social media accounts is really good at replying. Just send him the pictures via either those platforms. I'd suggest Instagram since it looks like it's more active. 

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17 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:

For my next pair. If I can save 500 on pretty much the same performance and comfort in skates, why not. 

You'd think 8.5 would be a 9 with toe plugs in the end cap to make it half a size smaller  though, not the other way around. 

The padding is likely just a thin strip so your toes aren't exposed directly to the carbon she'll and adds some padding. Im pretty sure you got a skate that, like you said, had the wrong tongue put on.  If I were you I'd return both skates and order another 8.5. The good news is it's not your mistake and the shop should honor the exchange. 

Reach out to them via Instagram or Facebook. The person who handles the social media accounts is really good at replying. Just send him the pictures via either those platforms. I'd suggest Instagram since it looks like it's more active. 

So the regional rep from true called me a few minutes ago and is calling true in Winnipeg to verify if i need to pull that padding out in the toe box. If they say there is possibly an issue he would let me know. I should know something this afternoon or tomorrow.

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4 hours ago, stick9 said:

Curious, why on earth would you buy these, or any other skate for that matter, if you have custom made skates? 

If you're on the ice everyday for a long period of time, it's a good idea to rotate between two to make them last longer.

Or if one ever needs extensive work, you always have a backup pair (some also like having an outdoor pair). I usually keep a pair of ODR skates at the office (although I guess I won't be needing those as I'm WFH for the foreseeable future).

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I like to have two pairs of skates as well. One to ref and one to play. Sometimes I play after reffing tournament games all day and it's great to be able to put on dry skates. As mentioned, it also gives you a backup pair in case one pair breaks or needs repair.

I definitely like that a skate similar to Makos is available without having to pay custom prices. I do wish the sizing was the same as if I have to drop down from 8EE to 7.5EE that also means getting used to a smaller holder size or paying to get 272mm holders installed on the 7.5EE.

My Mako II stockpile should last a few more years; maybe by then a new model will be out that has consistent sizing vs. most other brands. If not, I would still buy one of the current models as the holder size difference is only a minor annoyance. Maybe I will just buy the Trues for future roller conversions and save my remaining Mako II skates for ice.

 

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24 minutes ago, althoma1 said:

I like to have two pairs of skates as well. One to ref and one to play. Sometimes I play after reffing tournament games all day and it's great to be able to put on dry skates. As mentioned, it also gives you a backup pair in case one pair breaks or needs repair.

I definitely like that a skate similar to Makos is available without having to pay custom prices. I do wish the sizing was the same as if I have to drop down from 8EE to 7.5EE that also means getting used to a smaller holder size or paying to get 272mm holders installed on the 7.5EE.

My Mako II stockpile should last a few more years; maybe by then a new model will be out that has consistent sizing vs. most other brands. If not, I would still buy one of the current models as the holder size difference is only a minor annoyance. Maybe I will just buy the Trues for future roller conversions and save my remaining Mako II skates for ice.

 

If a 7.5 and an 8 both have the same length, technically wouldn't it mean both should have the same size holders? 

1 hour ago, jrchecker8 said:

So the regional rep from true called me a few minutes ago and is calling true in Winnipeg to verify if i need to pull that padding out in the toe box. If they say there is possibly an issue he would let me know. I should know something this afternoon or tomorrow.

You shouldn't have to pull that price out for the skate to "fit" if the size is mislabeled. Did you ask the regional rep if the sizes are stamped on full sizes only or half sizes too. This will confirm whether there is in fact an error, and if so just order the proper size. 

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33 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:

If a 7.5 and an 8 both have the same length, technically wouldn't it mean both should have the same size holders? 

@SkateWorksPNW confirmed for me that 7.5W TF9 and TF7 skates use 263mm holders. 8EE Mako II skates use 272mm holders. @Hills and others have suggested that True retail skates fit a half size larger than other brands; so the 7.5W Trues and 8EE Makos may fit similar lengthwise, but unfortunately do use different holder sizes.

I know Bauer sizes up with their holders in EE half sizes (7.5EE Bauers have 272mm holders), but True doesn't.

I will of course attempt to find 7.5W and 8W skates in store to try on before buying or order both sizes from a place with easy free returns. I would be happy if the 8W fits due to the 272mm holders, but like to have my toes feather the cap; so won't go with the 8W if my toes can't touch the cap. 

My dream scenario would be to attend a Modsquadhockey event where a True rep has demo stock on hand and I could actually bake both sizes and skate in them.

 

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