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Lots of different profiles out there. I think it took the advent of quick removable blade to bring the new profiles to the masses. All I know is the days of the single profile are numbered. Best quote I could find on the topic from poster PBH, if people like this are giving new players advice I think profiles have a bright future: "I'll throw my hat in the ring here as someone who does a ton of profiles and also tests them. Owning a full-service hockey shop gives me the ability to have access to try all different combinations of skates, steel, and profiles. Yes, I am lucky, but this also comes with negatives as well considering I change configurations so often I sometimes physically hurt myself s and it most certainly does take its toll on my skating as well by changing equipment so often. Such is life..... BTW, when I say I hurt myself testing, I am dead serious. I hurt my back not too long ago, slipped a disc. I was testing an unreleased pair of skates with a very aggressive Quad 0 profile that was applied, it still had the full pitch in it and my back just couldn't handle the strain exerted with being so far forward. My back and core were constantly engaged fighting against the extremely stiff skate and the pitch of the profile and something had to give... Something did. My back. Anyway. Quad 0.5 is a great overall profile and as mentioned, what I typically like to start players on if they are coming from steel that has not been profiled previously. It's also very good for new adult players, as the pitch is something they are not yet accustomed to and can throw off their skating. For the young kids, I prefer to put them on a single longer profile until they develop advanced edge control. This allows them to focus on skating and not worrying about balance as much. Quad 2 would be my second go-to. The Quad 0/1 removes a very large amount of steel and also add quite a bit of pitch. Once you blend the toe properly many people feel too far forward and they get short choppy strides due to balance issues and such. There are so many factors I think we can all agree that its truly impossible to say what is the best method and what to use for each player without seeing. Not to mention that some skates have a built-in forward pitch, like TRUE, and many other skates are very neutral. For example, skating on a Quad 0 using the "Pro Sharp recommendation) on my TRUE skates makes me feel unbalanced. When I do Quad 0/1 I tend to remove most of the pitch from the profile to preserve steel and also lessen the forward pitch. I can always add more pitch later but I cannot add steel back once it's been removed. "

I am aware of the studies and have followed everything everyone here who has experience has posted. I just don't think they are using data to develop the profiles otherwise they would be able to prescribe them better or present evidence as to why one was better period or in a certain context or for a particular skater. I haven't found a cohesive explanation. Think about mom and little Joey who buy new skates and get upsold a profile, they are going to go with whatever is suggested without a clue of what they are buying.

I need to see the toe and heel blend and I can see what kind of shape the blade is in roughly.

Anything with an aggressive pitch such as that 5 11 13 is a bad idea when starting. keep it simple. 9 or 10 single. The best thing about a profile is that both blades will be the same. start simple get comfy and then change slowly.

I think the most overlooked and underrated option is Eagle. I have an eagle girdle and pants and they're unreal, they will definitely be the way to go if you're coming from older Tacklas, they are exactly the same imo. And the eagle Aero shoulders are exactly what you're looking for, I also used Supreme classics once upon a time and these are even lighter and the protection is about the same. You can order them directly from Eagle too. Fit should be the same as what you're wearing now in terms of sizing. All the other options mentioned are great too, but if you're looking to not even notice a change, you're probably gonna be happiest with Eagle. Obviously this is all my opinion, so try it on yourself too

There have been some studies. I'm sure some people here will be able to point you in the right direction. Two things I took away from the one study was: 1) Just because you feel better doesn't mean you are skating better. Thought that was kinda interesting. It was why they had to measure change versus feeling it. 2) I think out of the profiles they tested (they only tested a few) they found the dual profile 9.5'-10.5' to have the best results which is a lot like the Quad 0.5 which is a 8-10-12-14 profile.

It CAN help you. It could also hurt you if you went with a profile that works against you. The problem with the current state of profiling IMO is there are too many, not enough empirical data to make recommendations, and definitely few experts available to the end user to help make decisions. Add that it is extremely expensive to test many profiles and that I think describes the current state.

I have the aero custom pro pants, which were a bit expensive, but I got them for a team when I was trying to get into ice beer league. The girdle I have is the gx88 I think, retail Made in Canada, very good quality. I'm not sure what their site shows, but definitely send an email, there's a lot of stuff that they will still make that isn't on their site

Shoulders for me the RBZ/cl line has always been the balance of weight and protection I desire, just wish they had a high end pad components wise with a bit less of the protective elements to save even more weight. as far as girdles I have two different ones from the tacks line and like them both. Bought a jet speed girdle off here and trying to decide if I want to keep it or flip it, depending on if I like the fit well enough.

If you keep going to the same shop then its likely you are getting the same quality every time. If thats good or bad, I am not sure. I havent been able to see your steel. Do you see them check the steel each time its sharpened to make sure their work is level? +1

Yes, there is "shooting boxes" which players can stand on to put them at the same height.

Agreed with this 100% A longer single or dual radius profile will help with this. I would not do a triple/quad radius at this time. Also, make sure you are getting a good sharpening and the edges are level. The inability for your outside edge to grab properly can also be directly attributed to poor sharpening with uneven edges or improperly honing the steel after sharpening.

Actually why don't you post a picture of the blade then we can see what we are working with instead of guessing you need this or that?

I've seen Jamm stuff in local pro shops and I thought it all looked like Tackla as well, both shells and girdles. No idea the quality or anything but I wouldn't be surprised if they're connected. I've been a girdle guy since the mid 90's back when I had a plain grey basic Bauer one. I've tried a bunch over the years and currently use a CCM Tacks that I love. I couldn't stand the Bauer wrap styles (always felt like it was lacking protection and was awkward getting on/off), had an old Easton one that I liked but no longer exists, used a 9K pro for a while that I really liked but now switched to the Tacks since it's lighter than the 9K, more protective and more adjustable. The Jetspeed is similar to the Tacks from what I remember, maybe just slightly less adjustable and a touch lighter, looks nice in the pics.

Ok. Just from what you've said, it sounds like you want to adjust the pitch of the blade. Changing radius might not help. If you feel like your skates are pushing your body back on the heels, you will want more aggressive pitch.

Contact Eagle directly. Info@eaglehockey.com and they should be able to get you what you need

I agree 100%

How long have you been skating? What skating moves do you have difficulty with? Cross overs, hard turns, hockey stop, skating backwards, backward crossovers? Stick is used as balancing crutch and boards are used to stop?

As for pants, I really like pro stock CCM pants from prostockhockey.com. These are leftovers models that were issues to pro teams. Some models might have better protection along with the team's colors and logo.

Thanks for all the help and for sharing the thread!

Yes but awful structure. Broke down faster than anything.

Comments from another thread talking about profiles etc. Studies done etc Good read.

Man, THIS!! I was just wrapping my head around quad profiling and now there’s the ellipse. At $50-ish a pop, it is not cheap and I simply ruin my steel if I keep trying out new things. What would be great is if there was a rental program that allowed people to rent different profiles to test them out. More upfront cost for the profiler, but I’d imagine happier customers at the end of the day.

I personally like to adjust the balance point, pitch, and prefer a more aggressive profile, but understand that individuals will want something more neutral.

To much blade removed and to much pitch. imo

What is wrong with a Quad 1 vs a 0.5?

I knew that would work out well. Not a fan of any of the other Quads.

Cons - the stick will load differently to what you are used to so this generally means a slight change in technique to get the most out of the lighter flex and your accuracy back ie it's more a let the stick do the work. Slapshots lose a bit of zing. Receiving hard passes requires softer hands, the stick doesn't absorb the pass as well.