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After years of trying stuff and nerding out about sticks, for me, there's only one thing that truly matters to me, and that's flex. Everything else is negotiable in my books except flex. As for everything else, with curves, it's just about what I like to do and which curve allows me to do that easier without giving up too much of something else. With shafts and kickpoints, I use to think it mattered a lot for me, but now, not so much. I find I can adjust to different kickpoints, so I don't worry about it. At the end of the day, as long as I have the right flex, I can use anything.

I made the jump a few years ago from the p92/W03 to the p28. But I actually went back to the P92 for a bit before I figured things out and started using the p28 again. If your mechanics are off, it can be an unforgiving curve. Sometimes it'll launch the puck into the rafters. Other times, it won't even leave the ice. You really have to get your hands out in front of the puck to use the curve, and you have to get use to having the puck at the toe to snap one off. If you're not normally a toe shooter, there may be an adjustment period as you re-calibrate. There's also may be an adjustment period because they're generally different lies, with the p92/W03 usually being a lie 6 and a p28 a lie 5. Though the p92/W03 does come in a lie 5 in some cases. Good news though, there's a lot more flat on the back of the blade to work with for backhands. And toe drags are a little easier. One weird thing I encountered after Covid. After being off for so long, I was having issues shooting with the p28 for a while. Maybe it was because I lost a bunch of weight. Maybe it was because I was waaay rusty. I was struggling to shoot properly with the p28. It got so bad, I went back to the p92 again, and used that to shake the rust off before trying with to the p28 again. I definitely needed to tighten things up with my technique for things to work with the p28. Like I said, unforgiving.

Yeah, for those prices, I'd rather just put that towards a new stick. If you're buying a clearance stick, that'll pay for at least 50% of the price. Honestly, for that price, and from the description of how the repaired sticks feel, it makes me wonder if you could MacGyver your own repair by simply using a composite, wood butt end or something similar. Chop the two ends of the stick so they fit flush. Take the butt end and chop off the part that fits into the shaft and used that to fit the two pieces together using some sort of glue. For extra security, you could drill a couple of holes and put a couple of small bolts through. It'll probably look ugly as hell, but would/could probably perform just as well as those expensive repairs.

If you want the whole blade to any curve to sit flush against the ice, simply close the blade face. Which is something you generally want to do when catching passes and carrying the puck. It keeps the blade in a better position to shoot or pass off the forehand. Having the blade straight up at 90 degrees puts it in kind of a no-man's land.

I went from the p92 to the p28 many moons ago. Tried the P90TM, and for me, it's been OK. When I compare the two, the p28 just does more of what I like in the toe area, and when I compared it to the p92, I preferred the p92. So, the p90TM got put away, for now. I'll probably give it another go around down the road, but for now, not working for me.

It's not comprehensive, but here's a link that should get you started and informed in terms of knowing what's what. https://issuu.com/elinmalmsten/docs/script-tryckfilus But here's the thing, if you're expecting night and day changes you're going to be very disappointed. A profile is kind of like a stick curve, it'll help you do what you want to do, but it's not going to turn you into something you're not. There's no free lunch. You always give up something to gain a little more of something else. And the hope is what you give up isn't as significant to your game as what you gain. IMHO, if you don't have a specific idea of what you want to get out of a profile change, then it's a shot in the dark, a roll of the dice. It might help. It might make things worse. And one of the things about some profiles they make it easier to churn over your legs, and that can give you the illusion of being faster, because more strides right? More strides does not necessarily mean more power or the even the same power in each stride. It can be like changing gears on a bike. And I'm sure you've seen when people shift gears to go up a hill, they end up on a gear where they're churning their legs like crazy, but only slowly going up the hill. The biker is giving up speed for less exertion per push on the pedal, making it easier to get up the hill. Now, I'm not saying this is exactly what happens. There might not be any power loss at all. The bike example is just to illustrate a point. What I'm saying is if you switch profiles without an understanding of what each of the different changes is doing for you, specifically you--not what the marketing spiel promises--this is how it can fool you into thinking you've gained something when you haven't. When I started to look into profiles, I had a specific goal in mind of what I wanted help with, and I started with one change, going from a stock 10' profile to a 12'. And I went from there, making about a half a dozen incremental tweaks over a period of a couple of years to find the profile that was right for me. But that was just the start. Once I had the profile I liked, I had to roll up the sleeves and start working on using that profile as a jumping off point to addressing the flaws in my skating. I had plateaued in my skating, and the change in profile was a little kick in the ass so to speak that allowed me to start making progress again. It didn't solve my problems for me. I am a better skater for it, BUT am I a better hockey player? No, not really. my2cents

I understand that, but don't you think its a bit unfair to point to the pictures I use and say they have flaws therefore they don't count. And then turn around and use pictures with just as many flaws in them to support a different point and say these count? That was the point I was trying to make with my follow up posts. Faded and overly dark pictures make it difficult to make comparisons too as well as photos with one stick tilted to the right closing the blade and one stick tilted left opening the blade up. And flawed as they are, I believe the photos I used illustrated the differences in the blades. But hey, that's fine. If flip12 and I don't agree, we don't agree. I did follow up with a post that agreed that pictures are flawed and if we can't use pictures to support our points, then we have to agree to disagree.

Yes, I did look, and if you look at the top edge of the blade, specifically the heel, you can see it straighten and bow back out as it flips. It's most noticeable on the back edge of the blade. Putting in the p29 shows a transition from a heel curve to a toe curve, showing the differences and similarities between a heel curve, a mid curve and a toe curve, and see those differences and similarities migrate through a transition from heel to toe curve. Also the photos your using, I don't think they're any better than the ones I'm using. One's faded way out and one's way dark, making difficult to pick out the details and differences. The devil's in the details. Also, you did you look at the videos I posted and hear the part where the creator of the curve describes the heel as fairly straight?

It doesn't help, because if we're using pics again, I can show you this. A transition from a p6 to p29 to p28, and to me, it shows even more clearly how the p6 is differs. The p29 and p28 at the heel look similar, but then, when the p6 shows up, there's an obvious offset that occurs.

Like you said there can be confusion with using photo, and to be fair, look at the shaft angles on the photo you put up. The Kreps is leaning towards the right and the Drury is leaning to the left. Also, that Kreps curve looks to be significantly more open than the p28s in the photos I used. To me one of the things that's creating confusing is the open face of the blades. That's why I pointed out how the top edge of the blade looks in comparison. So I guess we can just throw out any sort of photo comparison then because, angles, lighting, etc aren't consistent across the board. So where does that leave us? Two men enter... and umm... stare at each other? :p Like I said, my experience is consistent with what I think, and its consistent with what the creator of the curve says in the second video I posted above, that the back of the curve is fairly flat. I mean, I just got back from stick and puck and shooting with a p28 for 2 hours, and I honestly tried, and it doesn't feel like there's any curve back there when I'm doing things. When you shoot, pass, etc. with the p28 do you feel curve back there? Otherwise, unless you have something else to offer up, we're going to have to agree to disagree.

I can definitely see how you're drawing your conclusion. But IMHO, it can be difficult to pick out differences because in a static image broad-stroke similarities blend together and wash out the subtle differences. I went to this website Blade Pattern charts and used pics from there to make an animated gif flickering between a p6 and p28 to see if the differences became more apparent. Judge for your self, but to me, it looks like the p28 is straight at the heel. This is most apparent when we focus on the top edges of each blade and see how they differ. And this is consistent with my experiences with the p28. Whenever the pucks is on the heel--this is obviously subjective--but there doesn't feel like there's any curve to work with back there. And with the backhand, there's feels like there's more blade to work with when compared to my previous curve the p29.

Not trying to start an argument, but I'm not sure that's how I'd describe the p28. I use the p28 and it's pretty much a flat blade at the heel. There's no curve back there, and I only use that part of the blade to stickhandle. You don't have to take my word for it. Here's a couple of videos of the guy who created the curve describing how it's intended to be used.

Picture isn't showing up, but I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, that might be a tough find. They used to be available in stores and on eBay, But that was many years ago. On eBay, there only these left, a replacement for the lock that just turns the spot into a regular eyelet. https://www.ebay.com/itm/262975040573?hash=item3d3a88ac3d:g:Fp8AAOSwONBZESg1 If you have some local stores, try them. They may have some lying around. It's probably not a high demand item. Another thing you could try if you're desperate is to scour places that sell used skates, maybe even thrift stores, and see if you can find an old pair of skates with the locks on them for cheap and take the locks of them.

I don't think it taught me to feel my edges. It's more like it allows me to feel my edges better. I think it's a subtle difference. I notice now if I tighten my skates a little too much, I lose some of that feel.

I'm a huge fan of doing training with laces undone. I slowly worked my way up to it over the years until I could do the full monty so to speak, just before covid hit. And as I think back, I so wish I did this sooner when I was still on the upswing of life instead of the down. 😛 The difference in feel for my edges was so much better. I'm almost... ahem 50.... and I didn't expect to be getting much better than I was/am, but as soon as I started to train without laces, I found I started to make quick progress on skills that I'd stalled out on. My feel and control of my edges pre and post this isn't quite night and day, but I'd say pretty close, especially for my outside edges. It's hard to break bad habits, but I can tell immediately now if I took a good stride or a bad one and/or if I was well balanced on my skate or not when I did something. And because of that I can make the mental adjustment on the fly so to speak so I'm executing better. On a similar side note, last Friday I was in a game that got a bit spicy. I didn't know it at the time, but someone on the other team slashed my skate breaking a couple of clips on my right skate. I use skate straps, so breaking those clips pretty much mean I was skating with a "loose" right skate. I didn't even notice. I probably skated most of the game like that. After the game, my captain was telling me how well I was skating, just chasing players down on the back check and nullifying them.

All it takes is one user error to create a bad sharpening and ruin a profile. So anything is possible. I always inspect my steel before I hand it over and after. I line up the steel on top of one another to compare the height to make sure they're even, from toe to heel. I've had it in the past where the difference in height was very noticeable. I didn't return to that shop. One thing kind of stuck out in your description. From my experience, fresh steel tends to have more on the toe and heel, and a overly aggressive, poor sharpening tends to grind too much off the toe and heel. Which is kind of opposite of what you've described. Though, I do vaguely remember someone describing how a shop basically ground their blades flat

Just the top inch and a quarter. I make three steps, first step is 1.25 inches wide. Second is 1 inch wide, and the third is .5 inch wide.

I've found using sock tape to make the knob and making the knob really large, 1.75" wide, helped in a lot of different areas. One being palm wear. The large knob lets you get a better grip with your top hand when pulling on it to shoot, so the end doesn't slip or move as much, which I found reduces the wear on the palm. The larger knob also distributes the pressure of the butt end over a larger area, also helping to reduce wear. And then there's the fact that sock tape is a lot smoother. Of course YMMV.

I've seen this happen at the AAA level too, at around the same age group. Memory's a little foggy on this, but I think I remember seeing a game where a kid scored 11-12 of like 14 goals by their team and the coach was still double shifting him even though it was a blow out. It always makes me wonder what the heck the "coach" is thinking. My tinfoil hat theory is the coach is trying to compensate for their own lack of something. Any ways, I think your view of things is right, and you're right to raise a stink. It's one thing to have them be part of the team and be double shifted when they're down, but to triple shift at the expense of the kids on both teams, that's not right, especially for the league they're in and the age group. Individual success at that age means nothing and giving this kid special treatment that way does nothing but harm to everyone involved. Cause honestly, this kid may dominate in C, but he's only OK in B. And playing him this way is probably going to create selfish/bad habits. Any ways, my2cents.

From my experience, build quality hasn’t been a factor regardless of size class. I have size 4.5 feet. I’m way lighter now, but I’ve been as heavy as 190lbs and my skates have always lasted around 5 years, and I’m on the ice at least three times a week. Longest skates have lasted for me is 7 years. I think my current S190s are going to eclipse that. One factor that will affect lifespan is how well you treat the skate. Some people leave their guards on and leave their skates in their sweaty bags all week. That’ll speed up corrosion and the breaking down of materials.

Sticks are constantly changing and so are each of us as a players/people. From my experience, chasing a feel from a specific time, can be a bit of a wild goose chase. I’ve gone back to sticks that I remember being great for me and found them very much lacking, especially when compared to a memory. On the flip side of that, I’ve gone back to sticks that I thought were terrible and they turn out to be exactly what I want at that moment in time.

When looking for new skates, best thing you can do for yourself is to go to a store and try everything on and see what you like. The pace in which skates lines turn over, there's no guarantee that one line/brand will be right for you each and every time. If you're worried about being able to flex your ankles properly, for me, I've figured out a few things that work for me to address this. I'm about the same vintage as you. I grew up with leather and nylon and those plastic hinged Langs. One thing I found that helped me get more ankle freedom was to adjust the lacing pattern on my skates. Here's a link to a post with pics in which I described what I do. Basically, it creates a slightly deeper V pattern in the upper part of the skate allowing for more forward flex while still pulling in the sides of the skate for more support while still pushing the heel back into the pocket. Another thing I did, which may or may not be for you and will take a bit of work to get used to, is I learned to skate with looser laces. I know to some it may sound a bit wild, but a while back, I started dropping eyelets when I went to stick and puck. Over time, when I got use to skating without the top three eyelets being done up, I started to experiment with skate with my laces loose during stick and puck to help address some lace bite issues. Because I got use to doing that during stick and puck, now I don't need to cinch up my laces as tight during games. I just pull them taught and that gives me enough support to do everything I want while giving me lots of ankle freedom. Like I said, it's not for everyone and will take some work, but for me, it was worth the effort, so now I don't ever have to worry about skates being too stiff now. Any ways, my 2 cents.

I'm just shy of the big Five-Oh, and as the years go on, I've found that I'll have to go up or down in flex depending on how I feel, but the overall trend is down. 😛

If you're used to the p88, the p92 is sort of the next step along the continuum. It'll make it easier to get under the puck and roof it from in close, and the pocket is placed similarly to the p88. I wouldn't recommend the p28. It's a vastly different animal and is way more unforgiving. If you don't execute the right technique for that curve it either launches the puck into the rafters or doesn't leave the ice. BUT, in my honest opinion, if you like the p88, you probably don't need to reinvent the wheel. Just spend some practise time lifting the puck in close with your current curve. Switching to a different curve, especially if you've used the p88 most of your life, is probably going to require more tweaks and growing pains than simply getting some more practise time in with your current curve. I'd bet you'd be able to make the required tweaks within a hour or two of practise. One other thing to consider, which may or may not apply to you. For me, I've always found regardless of curve--and I've used pretty flat curves like the p38 and the toe curves like the p28--the key to accuracy and lift is stick flex . As long as I have right flex for me, I can execute the proper technique, and I don't tend to have issues with placing the puck. If the stick is a little too stiff, it makes it harder to go through the proper motions when I'm rushed, and I'll have issues with accuracy and lifting the puck. Since you've played defense most of your life, you might be used to having a little more time to load up. Playing forward, you don't always have that time and maybe when you're rushed, you're not able to flex the stick quite enough to get the puck to do what you want. Maybe going to a slightly lower flex might help. Just a thought.

From my experience, I haven't been able to figure out a way to mimic the ice for shooting. I've tried all the regular stuff that gets recommended, but the simple fact is the extra friction is always going to make it easier to load the stick. Now that doesn't mean shooting off-ice is useless. IMHO, If you're doing the reps and executing technique properly then it should translate as long as you're getting reps on the ice too. For me personally, for a long while I struggled with my shot. And I've found while experimented that whenever something isn't working, it narrows down to two things flex and technique. After the covid pause, I was having a lot of issues with my shot, and after working on my technique, switching out kickpoints and curves, I realized it was because I'd recently lost a significant amount of weight and along with that weight a bit of muscle. So I went down in flex and suddenly all the issues went away.