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None of those companies had a holder/runner set up that was patented. You tend to just gloss over that. The goal should be to get the consumer in your product and not need or want someone else's steel. FWIW, I highly doubt people are not buying Bauer skates because they can't use a certain type of steel.

So you hate Bauer because other companies choose to comply with US patent laws... Seems totally reasonable. 🙄

I fit fairly decent in both. The Supremes were a touch more comfortable thru the forefoot but didn't have the heel lock the of the vapor. The vapor also has a narrower ankle and cuff area which fit me a little better than the Supremes.

Does that include those sharpenings with the uneven edges...? 🤔 I know that will likely irratate the purists, couldn't resist.

Yeah, I'd agree, depends on what you have and what you are going to. I switch between 3/4 & 11/16 and 2-4 passes is good enough.

Same edge relative to the position in the Sparx? Your ring alignment could be off.

Adjusting the height takes a few minutes. Litterly move the ring to where it almost makes contact with the toe (gotta press and hold a button) and turn a dial to set the height. If someone's unwilling or too lazy to do that, they shouldn't be sharpening skates. The points at the toe and heel are vastly overstated and pale in comparison to things like uneven edges and ruined profiles.

This goes back to my point. It's not the machine, it's not the steel, it's the user. The ring is set to high, period. I've had mine for over a year now. Ive sharpened, LS3, LS4, Step & Tydan without issue. When I first got the Tydan, I had the same problem. The height I had set for my somewhat worn LS4 & and Step was too high. The ring actually stopped and errored out. All I did was drop the ring height by a click...maybe two. Problem solved. Put the steel in and manually bring the ring across until it makes contact. If the middle of the ring makes contact with the the vertical portion of the toe, then it's set too high. Again, this is not the machine. It's a user adjustable setting. When set properly the machine functions as intended.

If you take the time to set it up correctly (that includes ring height) and try and not over think it, it's fairly straight forward and easy to use. Really, the only thing the user needs to do is check the and hone the edges.

It was more the convince of it for me. I've said it many times, the machines biggest weakness is the sack of meat standing in front of it.

Yup, way too high. Try dropping it down a few clicks.

Howie's unwaxed are the thickest I've used.

Yup, amazing what one click will do.

At this point it's probably worth trying on some different models to make sure the Nexus is still the right fit.

I took a closer look at the knee cap last night. It's just liner and some medium foam on the backside of the knee cap. Surprisingly thin for a pad of that price point.

It doesn't matter. But, due to the contour of the blade, if you point the toe to the right you can have the ring hit higher up. The same setting with the heel pointing right will cause the ring to stop when it hits.

Tacks shins aren't as protective as one may think. I was bruised up nicely from a wrist shot that hit just off to the side of the knee. Funny thing is, the other areas are extremely well protected.

Even if they were built to a last of your foot, you'd still need to bake them to form the tongue and interior foams. If that is what we are talking about...

Covered...

Looks like the curve on the P90T starts further from the heel than the 28. There's what looks like a usable flat at the heel. I assume for improved backhanders.

Not sure I consider those white skates. I think the white accent actually works. When I think white skates, I think Fedorov and the Supreme One.xx LE's from 2012. Gotta have the white toe cap to be a true white skate. Which I think is what makes them look so terrible.

Well, right now you have Tydan, Massive and Bionic all making replacement steel for the edge holder. Massive is selling their product on hockey monkey. I'm no patent laywer, but this makes me think they found something.

Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the scope of the patent.

My guess is, Step had the biggest impact on Bauer's business. Which is why, even though they played by the rules, Bauer went after them first. From day one, I always thought Bauer made a giant mistake by not licensing the Edge runner tech. The money in licensing fees would have been equal to, if not more than what Bauer would make selling their own steel. Far less headache too.

I'm not. They were clearly violating a US patent and they knew it. Which is why they never offered it to the US market. They even stamped some blurb about it on the steel itself.