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Interesting story about profiling/sharpening
stick9 replied to shooter27's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
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Neither have I.
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Adding pitch to skate without heel lifts or profiling?
stick9 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I've done exactly that before. In fact, my old Easton S12's came with optional heel shims. Yeah, it does add some pitch but it also alters the way the boot fits. Heel lock and ankle placement are affected. Sometimes you need to rebake. -
As long as you understand that in order to truly judge whether or not the finish of the hollow results in more glide you have to compare two equal sets of steel. If you change even just one variable, the data is no longer legit.
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You understand you are changing three variables (hollow, length of profile & finish) at once and that doesn't take into account the difference between ROH vs FBV. It's just not an accurate data set, too many moving parts.
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Start with a skate that fits good. Then move to a footbed that enhances that fit. Once you nail that, you can dial in your profile and pitch if needed. The last thing I would tweak would be the hollow. All of this is pretty much irrelevant if the boot doesn't fit properly. My gut tell me you aren't in a boot that fits your foot all that well.
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The difference between those two is fairly significant. Blackstone lists the 92/75 as a 9/16 while the 90/75 a 3/4. I'd suggest tweaking only one thing at a time. The more variables you have in play the harder it is to track. Your issue is due to the footbeds. Superfeet have a decent amount of heel left to them. Stock beds not have next to nothing.
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I've had steel done by hand vs the same ROH from my Sparx and never noticed a difference.
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I don't think you can have one without the other. Proper form and technique will be much harder to achieve full potential with a poorly fitted skate, same for a properly fitted skate with poor form and technique. Lots of chatter about how critical holder alignment can be but overall fit of the skate is secondary?!? That just sounds counter-intuitive to me. IMO you need a properly fitted skate AND footbed before you can even discuss form and technique. At some point the poorly fitted boot will hold a player back. We can argue stiffness all day but fit, that to me sounds like a no brainier.
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160 lbs. I sort of went the long way from 5/8 to 3/4. I was using a Blackston FBV for a few years. When I went back to a ROH sharpening. I asked the guy who was doing my skates what was closest to the 85-100 FBV. He did a 3/4 and it just worked out. I didn't have the same level of grip I had on the FBV but it close enough. Lately I've found myself looking for just a bit more grip. I tried a 5/8 but that was too much. I don't like that locked to the ice feeling. 11/16 seems to be my sweet spot for glide vs grip.
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I can definitely say a shallower hollow is less stress on the the legs, knees and groin especially. I tried going down to a 5/8 from my normal 3/4 I felt it in both those spots. As far as speed goes. Yes, you get more overall speed. You do sacrifice grip in the process. It's a balancing act. Most people judge what hollow they are on by how much grip they have or don't have. Im iffy on the more glide with a smoother cut hollow. I'm not calling total BS, just saying I don't notice a difference. I also don't notice a difference in terms of glide on softer ice.
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@Leif - I'm 49...
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That's great, you'll have the best form in the senior home. 😉 Before barking at the OP about this that and the other, how about asking him what he's looking to get out of it. Not everyone is training to play the Soviets. Again, it's the practicality of that route for a player his age. It's entirely possible to skip all that and just have fun. Great skater or not, we all end up in the same place, local beer leagues. Ask yourself, is all that really worth it.
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There are plenty of us out there who never payed a lick of attention to that stuff and get along just fine. Again, I'm not dismissing it. Just doesn't seem all that practical for an older player who's probably only on the ice once or twice a week. It's fair to interpret my analogy anyway you like, that's wasn't how I intended it.
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Look, biomechanics, off ice training, no laces...all that stuff is great. It's definitely something I would steer my young son or daughter to. However, those learning the game at an older age don't have time for that. Frankly, it's all a bit extreme for an older player who just want to lace em up and go for a rip. For a player in the OP's position, a proper fitting skate that won't hinder his stride should be priority #1. And while I don't wish to go into here. To say that skate fit and all that is irrelevant is pretty short sighted. Correct your form on crap skates is like racing slicks on a Pirus...
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Who's to say there is an ideal stiffness? Sure there are some basic guidelines as to who should be in what. Mostly it's what the player prefers.
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Pretty sure the difference is in the steel.
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Kind of sounds like you need a EE width Supreme... Anyway go with the Supreme. You can punch and stretch it to help it fit you better. The problem with your arches could be a volume related, especially if you're cranking down on the laces mid boot.
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Sharpening: Blade Hollow and the Relationship to Body Weight
stick9 replied to Gretsch's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I wouldn't dub those points as facts. They're more like guidelines, and fuzzy at that. Though changing hollows with changing ice conditions is not uncommon. It's very much personal preference. There are too many examples to say otherwise.- 47 replies
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Yeah, I'm good with the additional info, thanks anyway.
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Gee, flip13 disagrees me...there's a shocker. Let me dumb it down for everyone. In the orginal pic of Nylander he looks a lot like Pasta, enough so to warrant a snarky remark, which I provided. Not sure why that got everyone's panties in a bunch. And yes, William and David are friends. It's pretty well documented.