JimmyTheDriver 36 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 When I read the Mako II boot is soft - what exactly does it mean? I used to hate when my lower end skates creased around mid foot and all support was lost. This kind of soft? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwizardno2 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 When I read the Mako II boot is soft - what exactly does it mean? I used to hate when my lower end skates creased around mid foot and all support was lost. This kind of soft?More as in they feel like sneakers. But not in the floppy, crease around the mid-foot kind of way. They're actually quite stiff feeling structurally - and have plenty of support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
althoma1 574 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 W, wait. No replacement for Mako 2!?Based on the other threads I gather there is a Mako replacement that will have a different name. Based on Buzz's comment I'm guessing that this new replacement may not be ready for the 2016 booking season. If that's the case it may be delayed and not come out in the spring when most other new skates launch perhaps it'll be released later in the year or pushed back into 2017. I have no personal knowledge of this - just reading between the lines and forming my own hypothesis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iammerson 19 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 Support is great on these skates never had any complaints as far as softness or lack of support Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 They have plenty of support, they're just not like ski boots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craypas71 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 althoma1, OptimusReimThank you guys! I was a bit worried if Easton would stop making Mako-style boots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iammerson 19 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 From what I read and have heard the next Easton skate is definitely on a bit of delay. Let me start by saying I own mako two and I am a huge fan. the delay I heard is in the design phase. Apparently Easton is continuing to struggle with finding a way to include all there great features without the skates costing so much money or them losing money. Just what I heard. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
start_today 770 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 An anticipated Easton skate beset by delays? Who would have thought... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I think if Easton offered the Mako with the RB2 holder then there might be more folks in them. A lot of players don't want to switch to such an aggressive pitch. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyTheDriver 36 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) They have plenty of support, they're just not like ski boots.It's no wonder you and the other fellas here love them so much. I went and tried on all the top skates, including the Jetspeeds I was sure I'd leave with. Of the traditional boots I liked the Jetspeed best, but had saved the Makos for last. When I mentioned wanting to try them to the kid there talked like he didn't want to sell them to me. "oh well those are weird skates. We don't sell alot. Last shipment we got of those was a year ago. If you break your steel it's harder to find at LHS. Not many pros use them. All my friends use Jetspeed." An older guy walked buy and dropped in "yeah but anyone who tries these loves them". Well anyway, they were more comfortable than the tennis shoes I wore into the store. I didn't realize a skate could feel like this and still perform. Baked once and am now waiting for a skate. -Jim. Edited December 20, 2015 by JimmyTheDriver 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laserrobottime 149 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 I think if Easton offered the Mako with the RB2 holder then there might be more folks in them. A lot of players don't want to switch to such an aggressive pitch.That would also defeat entirely the purpose of the skate. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosinger 122 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 That would also defeat entirely the purpose of the skate.Well, I wouldn't say a change in holder would defeat the _entire_ purpose, as for the overall pitch there is still a forward pitch in the boot construction itself. Plus, the range-of-motion and the mold-ability of the entire boot would remain unchanged by that. So 2.5 / 3 main selling points are still there ;) But then again, I'm also not sure the RB2 / LS2 / SB4 / whatever holder on those skates would convince the majority of buyers, as the pitch is only felt on the ice and most people don't get/opt to try the skates on the ice before buying them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bolt91 31 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 I need to find these to try them on. I've had so many problems with skates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 712 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 Well, I wouldn't say a change in holder would defeat the _entire_ purpose, as for the overall pitch there is still a forward pitch in the boot construction itself. Plus, the range-of-motion and the mold-ability of the entire boot would remain unchanged by that. So 2.5 / 3 main selling points are still there ;)But then again, I'm also not sure the RB2 / LS2 / SB4 / whatever holder on those skates would convince the majority of buyers, as the pitch is only felt on the ice and most people don't get/opt to try the skates on the ice before buying them.True, but isn't that why Easton offered the 30-day satisfaction guarantee on the Mako? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 That would also defeat entirely the purpose of the skate.Definitely disagree. I had mine profiled to eliminate the pitch. Still the second most comfortable boot I've ever worn. (The Mako actually feels sloppy on my feet now after wearing VH)True, but isn't that why Easton offered the 30-day satisfaction guarantee on the Mako?I think that's more because they know if you try them you'll like them. I wonder how many people tried the 30 day thing and returned them. Probably very few I'd guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 712 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 Here I think it's another disagreement of shades based on your particularism versus my universalism 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laserrobottime 149 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 The video and literature really pushes the aggressive stance of the CXN holders and steel. I'd argue the negative space and fit features are secondary to the stance in that skate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 Fit and mobility are completely the forefront of the skate. The pitch scares off a lot of potential converts. If they offered a more traditional pitch then you'd see older beer leaguers buying into them in droves. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iammerson 19 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 Don't sleep on the price. That's gonna scare a lot of people away to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted December 20, 2015 That's where the lower models came in. I wish they existed when I bought the original Mako at full retail. Still worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktang 34 Report post Posted December 21, 2015 Fit and mobility are completely the forefront of the skate. The pitch scares off a lot of potential converts. If they offered a more traditional pitch then you'd see older beer leaguers buying into them in droves.Maybe they don't want the old(er) beer leaguers in these skates... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted December 21, 2015 Maybe they don't want the old(er) beer leaguers in these skates... Jokes on them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sectachrome 40 Report post Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) It's no wonder you and the other fellas here love them so much. I went and tried on all the top skates, including the Jetspeeds I was sure I'd leave with.Of the traditional boots I liked the Jetspeed best, but had saved the Makos for last.When I mentioned wanting to try them to the kid there talked like he didn't want to sell them to me. "oh well those are weird skates. We don't sell alot. Last shipment we got of those was a year ago. If you break your steel it's harder to find at LHS. Not many pros use them. All my friends use Jetspeed." An older guy walked buy and dropped in "yeah but anyone who tries these loves them".Well anyway, they were more comfortable than the tennis shoes I wore into the store. I didn't realize a skate could feel like this and still perform. Baked once and am now waiting for a skate.-Jim.I have a feeling this happens a lot. When I bought new skates last spring, the guy helping me basically recommended only the Supreme line for my foot and when I asked about other skates like Easton's etc. he had the attitude of "if you really want to you can try them on but I don't recommend them." I wish I had tried more before buying. Glad the Mako's worked for you and interested to hear your impressions after taking them for a spin. I applaud Easton for at least trying to move things forward with their Mako line even if not everything was a home run. Edited December 21, 2015 by sectachrome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyTheDriver 36 Report post Posted December 21, 2015 I have a feeling this happens a lot. When I bought new skates last spring, the guy helping me basically recommended only the Supreme line for my foot and when I asked about other skates like Easton's etc. he had the attitude of "if you really want to you can try them on but I don't recommend them." I wish I had tried more before buying. Glad the Mako's worked for you and interested to hear your impressions after taking them for a spin. I applaud Easton for at least trying to move things forward with their Mako line even if not everything was a home run.No joke all the youngster store employees, independent of each other, were scoffing everything other than Jetspeeds, which must be the new Vapor level cool. Even at the very end of the transaction, the guy doing the sharpening goes "I've never even sharpened these skates before... We sell these?" Headed out to pickup tonight to give them a whirl. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted December 21, 2015 It's no wonder you and the other fellas here love them so much. I went and tried on all the top skates, including the Jetspeeds I was sure I'd leave with.Of the traditional boots I liked the Jetspeed best, but had saved the Makos for last.When I mentioned wanting to try them to the kid there talked like he didn't want to sell them to me. "oh well those are weird skates. We don't sell alot. Last shipment we got of those was a year ago. If you break your steel it's harder to find at LHS. Not many pros use them. All my friends use Jetspeed." An older guy walked buy and dropped in "yeah but anyone who tries these loves them".Well anyway, they were more comfortable than the tennis shoes I wore into the store. I didn't realize a skate could feel like this and still perform. Baked once and am now waiting for a skate.-Jim.Never listen to a kid in a store. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites