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I'm using a special lacing technique for a good heellock with my Tf7. Through eylet 3 and 4 from the top I'm building an outsideloop and then go through it across from the top eylet for the final knot and loop. I found it somewhere here in the forum. Gives you a perfect heellock and forward flex without too much pressure. I'm planning a rebake after 20 hockey sessions for breaking them in and will try a standard lacing then. 

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4 hours ago, marka said:

Howdy,

So... struggling to get a good heel lock on the TF7s.  Its not horrible, but I can feel my foot lifting up/down a bit.  If I tighten laces enough that my foot is locked in, my arches start to hurt.

Thinking I should rebake.

I can get the plastic wrap.  My understanding is that the procedure is to lace up through the forefoot/arc and leave the top 3/4 eyelets undone, with packing wrap around the ankle area.  Can I expect that to tighten up the heel, or should I be looking for a way to apply more pressure from the sides?  I could probably rig up a clamp against some boards with foam between the boards and the boot...

Anyone have the heating instructions for home baking for TF-7's?

Mark

They say to leave the top, maybe top two eyelets undone, not 3-4.  
 

I have two different size feet due to ankle injuries so my right foot takes up quite a bit more volume than my left. I probably should be in customs but I’m too cheap.
Anyway, I was getting a lot of heel lift in my left skate but the right one fit perfect. What I did was rebake the left and tied it all the way to the top and wrapped the laces around the ankle and tied them up a little tighter than they recommend. Now they both fit great. 

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4 hours ago, marka said:

Howdy,

So... struggling to get a good heel lock on the TF7s.  Its not horrible, but I can feel my foot lifting up/down a bit.  If I tighten laces enough that my foot is locked in, my arches start to hurt.

Thinking I should rebake.

I can get the plastic wrap.  My understanding is that the procedure is to lace up through the forefoot/arc and leave the top 3/4 eyelets undone, with packing wrap around the ankle area.  Can I expect that to tighten up the heel, or should I be looking for a way to apply more pressure from the sides?  I could probably rig up a clamp against some boards with foam between the boards and the boot...

Anyone have the heating instructions for home baking for TF-7's?

Mark

I've struggled with heel lock in my MLX in the past, and when I tried to really kick my heels in on rebakes, it made a huge difference. The best heel lock I got came from three focus points for me:

1. Kicking my heel in really well, as previously mentioned. The heel of SVH boots is so cavernous and the Achilles area so pliable that it just feels nice when you bake it and it's easy to miss the importance of this step to really drive the fit home there. You really want to get a snug connection between the boot and the foot above the calcaneus. Failing to drive your foot far enough back will kill this.

2. Lacing snug, without overdoing it, from the bottom eyelets by the toe box all the way up to but excluding the third eyelet from the top. I didn't lace or wrap the top with plastic wrap but that's because I like a good deal of eversion in my stride and wrapping the firm facing and quarters prevents that rotation.

3. Massaging the outside of the boot above the heel to promote secure fit around the Achilles.

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8 hours ago, marka said:

Howdy,

So... struggling to get a good heel lock on the TF7s.  Its not horrible, but I can feel my foot lifting up/down a bit.  If I tighten laces enough that my foot is locked in, my arches start to hurt.

Thinking I should rebake.

I can get the plastic wrap.  My understanding is that the procedure is to lace up through the forefoot/arc and leave the top 3/4 eyelets undone, with packing wrap around the ankle area.  Can I expect that to tighten up the heel, or should I be looking for a way to apply more pressure from the sides?  I could probably rig up a clamp against some boards with foam between the boards and the boot...

Anyone have the heating instructions for home baking for TF-7's?

Mark

They had this video for the custom skate. I don't know if it applies to the TF-7.

 

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Howdy,

Thanks for the baking advice.  Hope to have time to try it out in the next few days.

Last night for a slower game I was reffing I used my old Mako M8's...  Two immediate impressions:

1) putting those on was like putting on a pair of slippers.  No pressure points anywhere and my feet were seriously locked in.  I definitely need to work on the TF7's to get them fitting like that.  Wow.


2) The TF7's are SO MUCH stiffer than my old Makos!

I was amazed at how much more I had to concentrate on getting over onto my edges with the Makos to get anything like the bite into the ice I'm now used to with the TF7s, for instance.  The Makos felt almost floppy on my feet.  I was pretty much used to it after 30 minutes or so on the ice, but it was really crazy just how different that felt.

Mark

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2 hours ago, marka said:

Howdy,

Thanks for the baking advice.  Hope to have time to try it out in the next few days.

Last night for a slower game I was reffing I used my old Mako M8's...  Two immediate impressions:

1) putting those on was like putting on a pair of slippers.  No pressure points anywhere and my feet were seriously locked in.  I definitely need to work on the TF7's to get them fitting like that.  Wow.


2) The TF7's are SO MUCH stiffer than my old Makos!

I was amazed at how much more I had to concentrate on getting over onto my edges with the Makos to get anything like the bite into the ice I'm now used to with the TF7s, for instance.  The Makos felt almost floppy on my feet.  I was pretty much used to it after 30 minutes or so on the ice, but it was really crazy just how different that felt.

Mark

Do you find the angle of attack of the TF7's similar to the Makos?

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Howdy,

37 minutes ago, Doodles said:

Do you find the angle of attack of the TF7's similar to the Makos?

I'm not sure I can say.  I think so, but ??

I've had my TF7's profiled with a Zuperior S like the Makos were though, so I'm hardly comparing stock to stock at this point.

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What's up community. I came here for help and advice. I want to buy a TF9 skate. I have a bit complicated feet, saying that i mean, bauer scanner told be to buy 5.5 Fit3 Ultrasonic skates. And as i sometimes trust technology i decided to spent a bunch of money for the thing that i will use long long time. BUT previously i used CCM Tacks 6EE, back from 2016-17 i believe. But they were a bit longer than i'd prefer, and as time passed they become even wider than i'd prefer, so snug fit of new ultrasonic win this race. But what ultrasonics can't give me is ankle support, they cut a bit lower 1.5cm lower than my old ones, and i really miss that 1.5cm. I'm 5.9 and almost 240lb. So in the corners sometime i feel like my ankle is outside of the boot, obviously not, but it feels lack of height. So does anyone here had similar problems? Which True TF9 size should i try? And should I, maybe they cut even lower? Bauer scanner told that all parameters of my feet wide. https://imgur.com/a/TMbK6K7

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Unfortunately, I believe the TF9 Junior sizes only come in standard width. If you're a Fit3 Bauer and EE in Tacks, I think you'd need a W in the TF9. The smallest size that comes in W in the TF9 is 6. 6 will definitely be too long for you. You'd likely need a 5 in length if you want a performance fit after baking or a 5.5 if you want a little room, but I think the R width would likely be too narrow even after baking.

Also, the TF9 skates are lower cut than Bauer. So, if a high cut boot is what you're after, I don't think a TF9 is the answer.  

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On 9/15/2021 at 2:33 PM, DennisD said:

What's up community. I came here for help and advice. I want to buy a TF9 skate. I have a bit complicated feet, saying that i mean, bauer scanner told be to buy 5.5 Fit3 Ultrasonic skates. And as i sometimes trust technology i decided to spent a bunch of money for the thing that i will use long long time. BUT previously i used CCM Tacks 6EE, back from 2016-17 i believe. But they were a bit longer than i'd prefer, and as time passed they become even wider than i'd prefer, so snug fit of new ultrasonic win this race. But what ultrasonics can't give me is ankle support, they cut a bit lower 1.5cm lower than my old ones, and i really miss that 1.5cm. I'm 5.9 and almost 240lb. So in the corners sometime i feel like my ankle is outside of the boot, obviously not, but it feels lack of height. So does anyone here had similar problems? Which True TF9 size should i try? And should I, maybe they cut even lower? Bauer scanner told that all parameters of my feet wide. https://imgur.com/a/TMbK6K7

Looking at your scan and the fact that you want a wider skate that's high cut, I'd suggest you go try on some intermediate CCM FT4/FT4 Pros and Ribcore 90K/100K in 5.5 Wide. The new CCM lines are now offered in tapered, regular and wide. You could try Tacks in 5.5 EE as well (the tacks line doesn't have the 3 new fits yet). The CCMs also offer a 90 day satisfaction guarantee with participating retailers (True offers 30 days). Bauer doesn't have any guarantee; so, it's lower risk to try the CCM options first and if they don't work you can move on to other brands...I think for what you seek, CCM may be the best option anyway.

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Alright, I owe @Hills an apology for doubting his take on the sizing of these things.  I tried them on when they first came out and thought they were fairly close to standard sizing, (maybe a touch bigger).  Went to the store today because I was going to buy a pair of TF9.  I'm a 7.5/7.75 in Bauer and CCM.  I put a 7R TF9 on my foot unbaked and my forefoot was swimming in the boot.  Length was pretty good, so I know they'd be too long post bake.  I think if these things fit you properly, you must wear no pants and have nephews named Huey, Dewey and Louie!

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4 hours ago, boo10 said:

Alright, I owe @Hills an apology for doubting his take on the sizing of these things.  I tried them on when they first came out and thought they were fairly close to standard sizing, (maybe a touch bigger).  Went to the store today because I was going to buy a pair of TF9.  I'm a 7.5/7.75 in Bauer and CCM.  I put a 7R TF9 on my foot unbaked and my forefoot was swimming in the boot.  Length was pretty good, so I know they'd be too long post bake.  I think if these things fit you properly, you must wear no pants and have nephews named Huey, Dewey and Louie!

Agree with this. When they dropped I tried a 9, which is what I usually wear (I'm a true 9L and 9.25R) and they felt fine. But practically, I ended up buying them in 8.5R, and I probably could have dropped to 8R if I wanted a super performance fit, but these are comfortable and I'm past the stage of jamming my feet. So I also owe Matt an apology

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I'm generally very happy with my TF9s, but a few folks have mentioned the little ridge in the front bottom of the toe cap on the half sizes. Does this go away? Didn't bother me for a while, but the other day I got tripped and while trying to catch myself, I felt my big toe jam into that ridge and it left a nice bruise on the front of my toe. Not broken, but still uncomfortable and I've never had such a thing happen in any other skate. Hoping the ridge there will eventually compress or something, but if anyone can speak from experience I'd appreciate it

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I’d really love if True could either rivet the tendon guards themselves or use a stronger/better lasting screw that holds the tendon guard.

I’m very careful taking my skates off and dry out my skates after every use and this is the 4th time in a year one of the tendon guard screws have broken. Unfortunately this time the screw snapped too deep in the tendon guard that I might need a new tendon guard.

Not the end of the world, but still a pain in the arse to deal with.

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8 minutes ago, Miller55 said:

I'm generally very happy with my TF9s, but a few folks have mentioned the little ridge in the front bottom of the toe cap on the half sizes. Does this go away? Didn't bother me for a while, but the other day I got tripped and while trying to catch myself, I felt my big toe jam into that ridge and it left a nice bruise on the front of my toe. Not broken, but still uncomfortable and I've never had such a thing happen in any other skate. Hoping the ridge there will eventually compress or something, but if anyone can speak from experience I'd appreciate it

Is there not a removeable toe bumper in the half-sizes?  I have heard it can be removed to allow for expansion of foot length.

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2 hours ago, Doodles said:

Is there not a removeable toe bumper in the half-sizes?  I have heard it can be removed to allow for expansion of foot length.

Nope. And that wouldn't help anyway, they fit fine, just the the ridge on the bottom makes no sense. I don't need to go a half size up

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On 9/23/2021 at 8:59 AM, the_game said:

I’d really love if True could either rivet the tendon guards themselves or use a stronger/better lasting screw that holds the tendon guard.

I’m very careful taking my skates off and dry out my skates after every use and this is the 4th time in a year one of the tendon guard screws have broken. Unfortunately this time the screw snapped too deep in the tendon guard that I might need a new tendon guard.

Not the end of the world, but still a pain in the arse to deal with.

Just replace them with helmet screws and nuts. Or just get copper rivets installed. 

I Never had the tendon guard on my trues go loose. Ever. Do you have your hockey socks cover the tendon guard? If you're careful taking them off, the only thing I can think of that may be causing stress on the tendon is if you cover them with the socks which causing constant pressure on the tendon guard during skating. 

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On 9/25/2021 at 10:47 PM, Sniper9 said:

Just replace them with helmet screws and nuts. Or just get copper rivets installed. 

I Never had the tendon guard on my trues go loose. Ever. Do you have your hockey socks cover the tendon guard? If you're careful taking them off, the only thing I can think of that may be causing stress on the tendon is if you cover them with the socks which causing constant pressure on the tendon guard during skating. 

Nope, socks are tucked and I’m meticulous taking my skates off or putting them on or handling them in general. They also go on a glove & boot dryer after every skate.

The biggest pain is the last two times the screw has snapped off into the tendon guard that it’s a bitch to get out. I need to just do the rivet attachment but I just don’t have the time to make it to a hockey store at the moment, hence the frustration. 

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I just don't get why they don't do the same attachment system that both the MLX and Mako did?

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On 9/27/2021 at 7:29 AM, the_game said:

Nope, socks are tucked and I’m meticulous taking my skates off or putting them on or handling them in general. They also go on a glove & boot dryer after every skate.

The biggest pain is the last two times the screw has snapped off into the tendon guard that it’s a bitch to get out. I need to just do the rivet attachment but I just don’t have the time to make it to a hockey store at the moment, hence the frustration. 

I've had to convert a few of the newer TRUE skates with the screw/nut tendon guard back to the copper style since the players (D1 college and Junior A) kept snapping the screw inside the actual nut located in the tendon guard. It seems like this is just something that happens eventually over time. All of these skates were right around the 1-year mark. I assume as time goes on the tendon becomes more flexible and the increase in movement puts more torque on the tendon screw assembly and it breaks.

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11 hours ago, PBH said:

I've had to convert a few of the newer TRUE skates with the screw/nut tendon guard back to the copper style since the players (D1 college and Junior A) kept snapping the screw inside the actual nut located in the tendon guard. It seems like this is just something that happens eventually over time. All of these skates were right around the 1-year mark. I assume as time goes on the tendon becomes more flexible and the increase in movement puts more torque on the tendon screw assembly and it breaks.

I should’ve just went to a rivet when I got them, oh well.
 

Just saw the pics of the new skates in the Gear Sightings, hopefully those come out soon, I’ll have to get a pair to see if they fixed the tendon guard screw, ha.

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So I’m looking at the tf9 to replace my makos I’m feathering the toe box with an 8r. My makos are a 9 and should probably be an 8.5. I tried on 3x/3s pro in a fit 1 size 8 and was also feathering the toes. 
 

My question is without getting them baked, is there any way of knowing truly what will be best? I sort of gambled with my makos(got the length wrong though) and it worked out. I would like to go. And should I be trying 7.5. we did the Bauer scan and it said I was 8.75 right foot and 8.25 left foot. 
 

last thing, is the tf9 in a class above the 3s/3x pro feature wise? I’ve been out of the gear whore life for a while so still can’t really tell. 
 

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16 minutes ago, crispy92 said:

So I’m looking at the tf9 to replace my makos I’m feathering the toe box with an 8r. My makos are a 9 and should probably be an 8.5. I tried on 3x/3s pro in a fit 1 size 8 and was also feathering the toes. 
 

My question is without getting them baked, is there any way of knowing truly what will be best? I sort of gambled with my makos(got the length wrong though) and it worked out. I would like to go. And should I be trying 7.5. we did the Bauer scan and it said I was 8.75 right foot and 8.25 left foot. 
 

last thing, is the tf9 in a class above the 3s/3x pro feature wise? I’ve been out of the gear whore life for a while so still can’t really tell. 
 

I would go with a 7.5 TF9 if I were you. The TF9 is higher than 3X/3S tier skate. They are top of the line quality just like Hyper lite or ultra Sonic

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I’d get the 7.5. “Feathering” is what you want when they are broken in. These will break in with baking and skating and feel too big. Plus, they are moldable enough they will accommodate any width you are losing by moving down. 

I assume from your story you have to mail order them, and bake them at home? 

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