JGraz15 53 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 Bauer showed off their new Vapor skates and stick and new lid yesterday. Really pushing it with social media content creators. Surprised there aren’t any discussions on it (so I thought I’d open up). What are everyone’s thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lennyboi 9 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 Really dig the look of the stick. Not a fan of the skate look tho. I think without the massive Vapor wording it would be much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueNux 17 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 I really like everything, including the skates. I only wish there was a tiny bit more red. The runners look interesting. I’m jealous the content creators got so many goodies. I’d love to test the skates out. Bauer show me love! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1280 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 Skates look like the X60, not really a big fan of them. I liked the prototype so I wish they stuck with a more Vapor 1x LE look. I personally dislike the Vapor and Jetspeed designs for 2021. Stick looks fine. Not great. Not bad. I dont use Vapor sticks so it doesn't really matter to me. It looks significantly better than the 2019 Vapor line of sticks. I really didnt like the Flylite at all. Helmet looks fine and feels good. It's very light. I use the Super Tacks X though and I think it fits and feels way better. The Carbonlite runners are interesting. However, after you profile them I dont think there is enough life left in the runner to justify that type of price. It's a very niche product. If weight is a concern I would much rather go with Byonic as its significantly cheaper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leif 161 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 The skates could look like a pair of turds (1), as long as they perform that’s what counts. I would want feedback from others before buying into them, although realistically it won’t be many years before my current skates wear out anyway. (1) I hope I don’t give Bauer ideas. It’s not meant literally. But the way the designs are going, you never know. Turdlite. It’s kinda catchy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainCharisma 25 Report post Posted June 6, 2021 Looks like Bauer kept the same Hyperlite font/logo design as when it was used on the old Easton stealth CX sticks/pads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caveman27 208 Report post Posted June 6, 2021 The multi-piece sole for the skates was interesting, or strange, depending on what you think. I kind of assumed you wanted a stiff sole to your skate boot, but Bauer has developed a sole where the middle and back have some flex. I'm a little bit skeptical of the reliability of the carbon fiber/stainless steel runners, what if the carbon fiber and steel separate? I'm sure it can handle the weight of my body skating on it, but what it you slam your skates into the boards or goal posts, or step on a stick (all of which has happened to me by accident)? Is it going to crack, come loose or break off? This guy's video covers it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz_LightBeer 969 Report post Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, caveman27 said: The multi-piece sole for the skates was interesting, or strange, depending on what you think. I kind of assumed you wanted a stiff sole to your skate boot, but Bauer has developed a sole where the middle and back have some flex. Good news for Mako fans, more of that tech is creeping into the Vapor Edited June 6, 2021 by Buzz_LightBeer 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 714 Report post Posted June 7, 2021 14 hours ago, Buzz_LightBeer said: Good news for Mako fans, more of that tech is creeping into the Vapor Was the Mako designed with flex in its outsole? 16 hours ago, caveman27 said: The multi-piece sole for the skates was interesting, or strange, depending on what you think. I kind of assumed you wanted a stiff sole to your skate boot, but Bauer has developed a sole where the middle and back have some flex. I don't get the idea. HT's video is great at regurgitating the marketing jargon, and that includes mentioning it has 5% flex. 5% of what? In which axis? How does this affect the holder? What about heel striders like the OG Vapor Monster, Pavel Bure? Though, to be fair, Bure's early Vapors had TPU outsoles, but that's mostly what he had used up until that time. I found out by using boots without any lateral stiffness in the ankle that I was bottom out on turns where I was leaning back on my heels. Shifting my weight toward my toes made it impossible to bottom out, and now I can't recall the last time I've done it in a stiffer skate. Agility to me, then, seems to be about the front of the blade as well. Props to Bauer for trying something different, but I'm stumped about how it's supposed to work. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenBreeg 493 Report post Posted June 7, 2021 1- HT videos all seem to regurgitate marketing jargon, I stopped watching them a long time ago. Maybe they have since changed and included real evaluation but I have never seen it. 2- Like the colors, black and red, looks like the skate for Team Empire... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyBoxersSayJoe 133 Report post Posted June 7, 2021 They fixed the issues of the original APX Fusion steel bubbling, warping or separating? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caveman27 208 Report post Posted June 7, 2021 11 hours ago, flip12 said: I don't get the idea. HT's video is great at regurgitating the marketing jargon, and that includes mentioning it has 5% flex. 5% of what? In which axis? How does this affect the holder? What about heel striders like the OG Vapor Monster, Pavel Bure? Though, to be fair, Bure's early Vapors had TPU outsoles, but that's mostly what he had used up until that time. I found out by using boots without any lateral stiffness in the ankle that I was bottom out on turns where I was leaning back on my heels. Shifting my weight toward my toes made it impossible to bottom out, and now I can't recall the last time I've done it in a stiffer skate. Agility to me, then, seems to be about the front of the blade as well. Props to Bauer for trying something different, but I'm stumped about how it's supposed to work. I guess it's something they tested in a lab. Or it's a gimmick like the Micron Power Clip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, caveman27 said: I guess it's something they tested in a lab. Or it's a gimmick like the Micron Power Clip. Don't you badmouth my beloved Micron Mega 10-90's! They were the shiznit! 🤣 3 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
218hockey 50 Report post Posted June 8, 2021 Since the skates are called HyperLite you'd think we'd be told exactly how much lighter they are than the 2X Pro. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 708 Report post Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) How do you know that hyper is lighter than ultra, fly, crazy, or super? There’s no globally accepted measurement scale for these types of things. Edited June 8, 2021 by Cavs019 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Cavs019 said: How do you know that hyper is lighter than ultra, fly, crazy, or super? There’s no globally accepted measurement scale for these types of things. I just assumed that Hyperlite meant they'll make you skate so fast that you'll see that Star Wars light speed effect! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz_LightBeer 969 Report post Posted June 8, 2021 Got a chance to hold the skate today. like I said, a lot of Mako similarities, and I thought they somewhat repackaged the original MLX tongue and went with it. I wasn’t able to walk around in it to gauge the feel of the flexible sole at all, not that you would without physically skating on it. I am a fan of the tongue and heel wicking type material. I would definitely try them on before buying sight unseen, I generally take 8/8.5 fit 3 and an 8 fit 2 was significantly smaller and tighter than I was expecting. The Carbon steel, however, can hop on the 405, get off on Sunset, use Waze so it doesn’t get turned around and end up in Marina del Rey, and go straight to hell where it belongs. I just don’t see it. It’s light, that’s about it. It’s not clear if there is any steel/carbon anchoring akin to rocket runners, it appears they are two pieces held together with resin or some medium. I see durability being a massive issue here. A problem compounded by the cost. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
start_today 770 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 So, this new steel that’s twice as expensive as other steel is just going to replicate the problems of the Fusion steel from a decade ago that everyone hated? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller55 333 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Buzz_LightBeer said: Got a chance to hold the skate today. like I said, a lot of Mako similarities, and I thought they somewhat repackaged the original MLX tongue and went with it. I wasn’t able to walk around in it to gauge the feel of the flexible sole at all, not that you would without physically skating on it. I am a fan of the tongue and heel wicking type material. I would definitely try them on before buying sight unseen, I generally take 8/8.5 fit 3 and an 8 fit 2 was significantly smaller and tighter than I was expecting. The Carbon steel, however, can hop on the 405, get off on Sunset, use Waze so it doesn’t get turned around and end up in Marina del Rey, and go straight to hell where it belongs. I just don’t see it. It’s light, that’s about it. It’s not clear if there is any steel/carbon anchoring akin to rocket runners, it appears they are two pieces held together with resin or some medium. I see durability being a massive issue here. A problem compounded by the cost. reminded me of this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1280 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Miller55 said: reminded me of this I thought the same thing. Haha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz_LightBeer 969 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Miller55 said: reminded me of this Not a coincidence, I borrowed it almost verbatim 😁 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenBreeg 493 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) How are people making a determination about how something with perform wrt durability and the manufacturing methods just by looking at it? Edited June 9, 2021 by BenBreeg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 714 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 14 hours ago, Buzz_LightBeer said: Got a chance to hold the skate today. like I said, a lot of Mako similarities, and I thought they somewhat repackaged the original MLX tongue and went with it. I wasn’t able to walk around in it to gauge the feel of the flexible sole at all, not that you would without physically skating on it. What are the Mako similarities you see? Cosmetically, there is some resemblance in the grey to black fade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_game 452 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, BenBreeg said: How are people making a determination about how something with perform wrt durability and the manufacturing methods just by looking at it? cmon man, they're Social Media Influencers...why wouldn't you trust their opinion? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenBreeg 493 Report post Posted June 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, the_game said: cmon man, they're Social Media Influencers...why wouldn't you trust their opinion? I stand corrected! 😄 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites