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I'm a sucker for 3D printed stuff and have a number of items made from 3D printers. When True leaked, then announced, their 3D printed tongues, I was intrigued. Unfortunately, the one time I got to see them in person at a Pure Hockey the velcro patch was already coming off and they were breaking down. And while there have been a bunch of photos posted online, there seemingly hasn't been any feedback, let alone long term feedback to see if they're any good. During holiday shopping for the family I broke down and decided to pick up a pair for myself. Took about 6 weeks to arrive, during which time I proceeded to dislocate my shoulder and get tennis elbow for the first time in the opposite arm so I've been taking time off to try and heal. Finally took the tongues out for a skate this weekend during Stick and Puck. First initial reaction was that they take up a lot of volume in the boot. I positioned them roughly where the felt t-guard tongues I typically use are, but when I laced up my skates I had almost zero extra lace slack to tie a knot. Stepped onto the ice and *whoooosh* I could immediately feel the cold air flow through the tongues. These are definitely not something I'd want to use on the ODR! Flexibility and comfort of the tongue itself felt great. Zero complaints. I don't suffer from lace bit to begin with and that stayed true with these so far as well. As the session went on, I noticed more pressure on the ball of my foot, likely caused by how much more volume was being taken up and how my laces were tied further smashing my foot into my insole. Got off the ice at the end of the session and my socks were SOAKED. I'm not sure if it was from sweat or ice shavings getting into the boot. Could be that the felt tongue usually absorbs more of the sweat? I'm not sure, but it was a surprise given how much ventilation I was feeling. After getting home I repositioned the tongue up a little higher which will hopefully eliminate the pressure on the ball of my foot. I also put on longer laces that should allow me to tie the lower part of the boot slightly looser while still giving me enough lace up top to tie up all the eyelets. Overall, first impressions were extremely positive even though I needed to make tweaks. I still wish I was able to find an FT6 Pro tongue to modify for True boots because that, to me, is the best tongue I've ever used. Either way, I'll try and remember to post feedback once the setup is dialed in as well as longer term feedback with how it holds up. Hope some of you find this helpful

Poron to standard foams. 3-piece thumbs to 2-piece thumbs. Embroidered cuff rolls to I don’t even know what to call the plastic crap now. That’s just Bauer. CCM has reduced D3O, or the amount of D3O, they’re using. Palm and gusset materials seems to be getting flimsier. That said, I wouldn’t even bother with retail gloves nowadays. Plenty of pro stock options available with better builds and more options. While it’s a shame CPR and Hockey Menders closed for repalms/customization, ITR does great work and continues to improve with every pair

Agreed although I’d go back one generation to the APX2 from Bauer and the QRL from Warrior. FT1 is the last ‘great’ glove IMO

All the rinks I’ve played at require USA Hockey insurance. I used to think it was a stupid additional fee, but did take advantage of it about 6 years ago when I injured myself. So now it’s a small price to pay for peace of mind

Wow. Interesting they’d replace the Cat line so quickly and before the Hzrdus line. New holders, new tornado design, back to a fully wrapped heel. Judging by the name, steel, and liner, I’d guess this is their mid-range option like the current 5x4

Perhaps I should have said ‘screw’, ‘pin’, or whatever that piece is called. All the dials are plastic.

What was incorrect about my statement? The larger dial at retail began with the FT6 Pro. Formerly it was available on pro stock holders. The 100k was released well before the FT6 Pro and any skates prior had the smaller dial

Definitely agree with this. 5-7 minutes at 175 is not enough. 200 for 5-7 or 175 for 8-10 is the way to go

Not sure about True, but retailers sell them at a significantly discounted price. Typically online and under a different name or as an ‘outlet’

Did you buy the same size as your Bauers? The Trues should open up a half size after baking

My understanding is that standard is snug, relaxed gives you more wiggle room, and tight is just as it sounds. Some players like a little more or less room so these options allow you to customize them as such

Didn’t realize marsblade was the same. I knew O1 and R1 don’t line up with Bauer/CCM ice or roller chassis so figured the same would be true for ice holders. Thanks for the clarification

Same hole pattern?

I simply meant the removal process. it’s finicky to hold the mechanism back enough to be able to pull out the steel. Compared to Bauer and CCM it’s a pain

CCM XS and Bayer Powerfly. Pretty sure that’s it

New SVH skates look good. I agree about the holder too, but damn True’s release mechanism is the worst

Love the throwback look from the shell to the liner

Prototypes of the new Warrior skates. They’re prototypes, but eesh not a great looking leak

Thanks for the info guys. True also told me wides were 3-4mm wider compared to regular. I’m not going to mess around and just hope the place can do right and get me the proper size

So… how much wider are wides? Got a pair of 9x4 for about 40% off, but was shipped my size in Wide, not Regular. I don’t have super narrow feet, but have always worn D/Regular skates. Haven’t baked them yet, but they seem to feel about right pre-baking compared to all the other True skates I’ve owned. In the event the seller cannot get me Regular width skates, I’m wondering how much wider the wides are or if the heat moldability is great enough that I can get them to wrap/fit close enough to Regular? That or give me a tiny bit of wiggle room without being too big

I'm not, but could have a colleague in Toronto pick them up for me. I don't see a F&F offer on their site. Am I missing a 25% off code? If I'm mathing correctly, that would be just under $800USD after taxes. edit… looks like that promo ended on September 18th. Bummer

Exactly. And I’ll be swapping holders so that’s another cost on top of the increased price. Maybe there will be a Black Friday sale

No, no. Just trying to find a pair below retail

Anyone got a connect for 9x4 skates? Looking to upgrade

A guy on my team has been using the i2 on his SVH skates for the last 1.5 years. He seems to really like them, but I haven't had a more in depth conversation about the them since he originally had them installed.