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I was about to ask, good thing I searched. The CT800 is said to be a true one piece design weighing in at 419 grams. Those are elite type numbers. My question is how do they compare to elite level sticks of a few years ago, say 1st gen Tacks, early Nexus 1N's or Supremes? Better yet, how do they compare to pro-stocks? I'm seeing them cheaper than $149 on sideline. Might have to experiment for myself.
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I would say yes it is.
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I won't argue the point, just saying thats not what I have been told. I had to guess, the change in sound and finish could be due to the wheel removing more material when making contact higher up. The sound and texture could be that excess material being stuck to the wheel early on in the pass. To me an increase in pressure or force to the blade would cuase you to experience those things for the entire length of the first pass. Again, don't want to argue the point as I am only the middle man.
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Hmm, gonna have to check that out. I knew how it hit the toe would be affected but was fine once it got to the flat. @colins No change in pressure applied to the steel by adjusting the height. I confirmed that with someone on the inside.
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Correct, the height adjust simply sets where the wheel makes contact with the toe/heel. There is no change in the pressure applied to the blade during sharpening. As it's been explained to me. Due to the natural shape of the blade, sharpening with the toe to the right allows you to set the height higher and sharpen further up the toe. If you're curious, manually move the wheel to just before it would make contact with the steel in both directions. Either way, it does not affect the actual sharpening. You're still getting two passes per cycle.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. In the end it's True's product on his feet and their reputation. They gave the shop the tools and the training to use it and they built the skates. They can do right by then customer then put pressure on the shop to get their crap together. @smu I can't tell you how to handle the situation, that's up to you. Im fairly certain you are entitled to some relief. Paying full price for this disaster is a flat out screw job.
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Holy shit, you paid for an holder swap that True screwed up in the first place. Not only that, they screwed up your skates once, they tried to band-aid fix the same pair with foam and masking tape. Honestly, you're getting screwed. True and your LHS should be eating the cost of the skates and refunding your money for the holder swap which should have been free in the first place. They should be apologizing to you, not the other way around.
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@smu I'm curious, who's paying for this little disaster? I certainly hope you got a hefty price break. Just curious, you don't have to share if you don't want to.
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How about we call it 3rd try and not argue over symantics....
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At this point it would probably be a relief to learn it was a simple shipping error. Might even get a laugh out of it knowing some poor sole just got a pair of skates that are way too small for his feet.
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Do you have any idea how much that sort of equipment costs, it's not cheap. That doesn't even take into account the space needed, the power to run it and the people to operate it. Again, I highly doubt that's how they are doing things. It makes way more sense from both a business and manfacturering standpoint to assemble skates using off the shelf parts. Why is this so offensive to people? Its actually pretty realistic. I'm not knocking them, they need to make money too. I wish people in this thread would be a bit more realistic.
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I'm actually shocked someone gave them a third shot after that experience.
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I don't think you're following me when it comes to the manufacturing process. My point is simple, the skate is not made from scratch. It's assembled from parts that are pre-made to fit a specific last. From scratch implies that ever piece is cut and made specifily for that customer. That would mean every boot was a complete one off. You can't sustain that at those costs, you just can't. As for last longer. Maybe you can prove it, it just sounds so far fetched. It's not like miles on a tire.
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Meh…. I'm not buying it. A statement like that (bolded) gives one the impression that every facet of the skate is custom made to specs of each individual customer. That sort of process would take months and the cost would be astronomical. I highly doubt they operate like that. I'm also not buying they'll last longer. There is no real way to prove that.
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As a player and a parent (my daughter does not play). My first reaction would be to get my kid in something that's easily replaceable. I'd do it while his/her skates were still in somewhat decent shape. That way it's not a hard transition.
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I've played on it a bit, maybe 3 months or so. It plays like 3/4 ROH, which I actually prefer to the Fire. If you are currently playing on a 5/8 ROH and want to try a Fire, go with a 1/2 to start.
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And it’s not like the area is a hockey black hole. From my house in central MA there are 7 rinks within a 30 minute radius, 3 of those are multi sheet facilities.
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Could be why they went with multiple automated machines... FWIW, up the street isn’t much better. I’d say, below average at best. These are my local options. Hence why I now have my own machine. I was there (up the street) yesterday. Store was pretty busy, yet only a single pair of skates in the sharpening window. Safe to say I’m not the only one displeased with the services at that location.
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They probably aren’t concerned with the $30-50 loss in revenue after selling you a $1000 machine... But I’ll ask next time I am there.
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Probably safe to assume it was the operator. Maybe he's not doing enough passes, not de-burring the edges or letting skates go out with uneven edges. I've been pretty fussy about my edges since getting my Sparx. I'm probably going way overboard, but whatever...
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This is how it should be measured. We know passes per sharpening will vary based on the condition of the blade. Total passes will never change as that’s the life of the wheel/ring.
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@goodguy Have him try the CCM 70k. Its a bit softer of a boot and extremely comfortable. I know one memeber who went from Mako’s to the 70k and seems pretty happy.
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If he think 1S’s are bricks, Trues will feel like boat anchors. His days with the Mako’s are numbered. Best thing for all parties is to find something else while there is still some life left in them.
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The question should be asked, did they screw up the order or send me the wrong skate. I’d confirm that before doing anything. Me, I’d probably always question that, especially if the fit wasn’t ideal.
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You’re right 100grams isnt much sitting in your hand. Hell its really not that much sitting on your foot at the shop. However, add a 100grams to each foot during a game and you better believe it matters. Hopefully the misspell of the Great Ones name was just a typo, a terrible, horrible typo... 😏
