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The games have been fun to watch! And having hockey starting at noon while working from home has been fantastic!

The key is no travel and keeping everyone contained. MLB will never make it.

We asked at the EU TRUE helmet launch in the MIPS factory Stockholm, they answered very carefully to not imply exclusivity. It would make sense for MIPS to be in multiple helmets for their licensing model as with multiple helmets in other sports. However, given what you mention, if another company chooses to implement MIPS is another question... So for now it's exclusively in TRUE through choice of other brands not using it, not because there is a deal as originally mentioned.

Just had these done at Pure. I had some Mission NLS2 that were unfortunately, too wide. Bummed at the prospect of buying a new set of skates, my buddy told me to just troll around sideline swap for a pair of donor boots. These 1S in my size came up for a super cheap price - $135. I had Pure take off my Bauer/Mission chassis and put them on the 1S and I'm now loving it.

Looking for True tongues. If I wanted just modded tongues, I could do that myself. Do I just email their support/customer service address?

I don't know if this sort of data is available, but I don't know how much shoulder pads necessarily help in that sort of situation. Growing up a kid a few years older than me got hit in the chest with a puck while wearing shoulders pads and his heart stopped and he died (I will caveat that this was in the '90s and shoulder pads have improved). As I understand, incidents of heart stoppage due to a puck to chest are incredibly rare. Sure, you can take the, "if it can save one life" sort of attitude. But at the same time you might as well wear your helmet while driving to rink as I would guess that is more likely to save your life than shoulder pads preventing heart stoppage from a puck to the chest, particularly if your car is older and doesn't have side airbags. Edit: I did some brief research and found this article: https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-chest-protectors-commotio-cordis-standard-met-20160408-story.html. It focused on baseball mostly and summarized that there is no indication that chest protectors or even special heart protective gear reduce the risk of commotio cordis (apparently what it is called). The articles claims about 10-20 cases in the US, mostly younger boys, and is rare in adults. And the best solution seems to be immediate access to an external defibrillator to restore proper heart rhythm.

Yeah the MLB is doomed. They were so busy arguing about money that they didn’t bother coming up with an actual plan. Doesn’t help that nobody is following protocol and the players aren’t even limited to the hotel and ballpark. Even the umpires were wearing their masks as neck warmers.

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The hotels in Edmonton and Toronto are probably doing well .

It will be interesting to see how the NFL handles their season because you're right: no bubble is a recipe for failure.

About 2 years ago I bought the same model shins also from PSH. Ended up returning them . I've since seen a few pairs with the same issue, or going vericily from the hole yours is cracking from. Seems to be a fairly common issue. Sticking with my 30+ year old 5090's, just replaced the liners.

It was awesome just being able to flip the TV on and putz around the house and have hockey on all day long. The way they have handled it is in stark contrast to what's going on in MLB right now. Hopefully nobody finds a way to screw it up.

And what about the VT test? It isn't a legal testing program. It's a study group that says they can test helmets and gives its proposed ratings on helmets based on testing methods that are not used by anyone else. Not the companies and not the 3 certification boards that actually certify helmets. I'm not repeating everything I have already written it's in the thread about the testing.

Agreed, they’ve done a fantastic job.

Like someone said, drill another home right beneath the end of the crack so it can't spread. I'd just contact psh and try to get a partial refund and use them, but if you play with guys who can shoot and it itches your peace of mind, then just return them. To me the peace of mind is there biggest plus of good pads.

CCM's not going to do anything for you on anything pro stock. PSH would probably offer a refund since they don't have any more stock to exchange. It'd bug me too, but that crack isn't compromising protection and probably won't grow that quickly.

You just defined “pro stock” initially those pads were part of a sale to a professional team. Regardless, there’s almost assuredly a restriction for third party sales, including eBay, SLS, and a site like PSH

N = 1, no control for any other variables, it is what it is as far as any generalizable conclusions.

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In the US, all new retail products purchased by consumers come with an implied manufacturer's warranty, even though the retailer might exclude certain items from the store's warranty policy. (Whether or not it applies here, technically, depends on whether that crack renders them "unfit" for their purpose, but don't get bogged down in that legal detail and ignore that for right now.) I don't believe that CCM mentions anything about "pro stock" in its 90-day warranty for defects. They only seem to exclude gear purchased as part of team sales to professional and college teams. I don't know if it's the case that, by definition, anything marked pro stock had to have been ordered as part of a team sale, originally; but even if that's the case, I'd still contact them at warrantyccm@ccmhockey.com and just tell them you found a crack in a brand new pair of shin guards and attach a scanned photo of the receipt and see what they say. If they tell you to contact the retailer, let them know that the retailer said that you need to contact CCM. Tell them that you've been using CCM equipment exclusively for your entire hockey career without any issues, and that you'd appreciate it if they would just do the right thing for a loyal retail customer who bought one of their products that clearly has a manufacturing defect. Don't be surprised if they offer a resolution to avoid alienating a loyal retail customer, regardless of any policy about pro stock warranties. Nothing to lose but the time it takes to send an email.

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Awesome! If leaving the holders on, I’d do it the way you did, to get a truer wrap of the foot.

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but l personally believe shoulder pads should be mandatory in beer league, not for shoulder or arm protection, but to protect the chest. A puck to the chest can stop your heart. It's a ridiculous macho thing for guys to play without shoulder pads, and there's no good reason for it. It's at the point where I play coed tournaments now and there are 110 lb women playing against 200 lb men, and they're not wearing shoulder pads because, "well if the guys don't wear them....".

I rarely play ice hockey and if I do it's organized pickup or subbing for higher leagues for guys on my roller teams who play ice together. That said, my general calculation is pretty simple. If I don't make a play because my pads are too restrictive, I'll probably be upset for a few minutes, maybe a day if it was a really big or critical play. If I get hurt because I didn't have sufficient padding, I'm going to be pissed and it's going to affect me for much longer. So I prefer more padding. That said, the only shoulders I own are Eagle Aero pros, which are not heavy duty pads, but that's mainly because I barely play. If I would play regularly I would definitely use more protective. Obviously I'm not trying to play hockey in a straight jacket, but I wouldn't ever sacrifice protection. I have little kids to run around after and work to get to. It's just not worth it. I also have had multiple shoulder surgeries.

I want all 3...protective while being light and non-restrictive.

For those who have expressed interest in trying it; at some point we may be able to start a Long-Term Review. I'm hoping to hit the ice next week. As some of you know, my mom is immunocompromised due to cancer and so we've been extremely cautious about us being exposed (and consequently, bringing it back to her) and she's getting another surgery at the end of next week. So I'm looking to go to the rink when there aren't many people there, and that's usually a weekday noon open skate session (which would be the best way to try these.) I like the way this thread is going so far; there's been very good back and forth discussion. Keep it up!

Well he has never had a concussion, even taking on dudes who were 6+ ft tall and over 250lbs (he's 5'7 and 152 lbs just turned 16) but at the same time he has never had a big ass contusion on his forehead from a nothing hit either so ya, weird. He said the helmet sucks and he's sticking with his re-akt 1st Gen.